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« on: November 10, 2003, 07:26:40 PM »

What will be the MAJOR differance running narrower tires?  

I can get 60's all day for a great price but the 50's are not so common.  

I can immagine cornering and hi-performance handeling but I'm not going to an oval track or getting off the off ramps at 60+ mph.  The Vette has 45's on the front but the TGP is not a Vette.

Its got to get through the snow too..  50's will feel like a plow.

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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2003, 08:46:01 PM »

The car handles like crap with 225/60's. I put those on it on 15's wheels because I got the wheels/tires for free. I am going back to 245/50/16's this spring.
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2003, 10:16:39 PM »

I'm pretty sure I have 60's on my TGP right now. They handle like crap...and they rub.  :shock: I can't wait to get stock sized tires back on there.  :roll:
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2003, 06:09:38 AM »

Its odd but the 225/60/16 do rub. They are a better snow/winter tire. I would stick with the 245/50 and get a winter car if I had to do it.
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2003, 12:23:20 PM »

Dont shoot me but this might be my winter car :shock:

I have 225/60/16's on the GTP and dont have any handeling problems.  Why would the TGP be any different?

I want to drive it so freakin bad.  Someone was going to buy it but has to raise funds, till them it needs to be driven, been sitting a long time.

I just bought 4 16x8 crosslace wheels with tires on them for $100.  I want to put them on the TGP without having to find new tires.  There are 225/60/16's on them now.  I have two real good 245/50/16's on fcked up rims and two poor tires on the good rims.  

Playing musical tires and rims gets to be a headache.  I put two of my old 225/60/16's and didnt notice and rubbing.

Holy crap.  I have a barn full of 16x8 crosslace wheels in all kinds of conditions .   16 wheels, 8 are on cars and another 8 are here and there, 2 unusable once the tires come off, I'm cornering the market on GP wheels.  I have to figure out what to do with them all and consolidate.  I might be putting some up for sale/auction.  

I might trade two silver for two gold.  I would like two gold to match the other good wheels on the TGP.  If not the TGP gets silver wheels!  I dont want to do that but if I have to I will.

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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2003, 10:13:15 PM »

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Dont shoot me but this might be my winter car :shock:

I have 225/60/16's on the GTP and dont have any handeling problems.  Why would the TGP be any different?


I don' t know, it shouldn't make any difference. There is the chane a GTP has only 7 inch wide wheels. That could take up some of the width. As far as handling? I don't know. Could just be a poor quality tire, or the 50 series handles better because is shorter and wider. I can understand it being your winter car, just my opinion of what I would do because the front of the TGP collects too much snow!
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2003, 03:02:14 AM »

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I can understand it being your winter car, just my opinion of what I would do because the front of the TGP collects too much snow!

TGP in the snow... heck my black 90 breaks them loose at 60mph on wet pavement, no way i'd try snow :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
If you have to, use the same size snow tire size as is on the Turbo STE's... I'll look tomarrow and get back with the size. :drinking:  :drinking:
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2003, 06:17:42 AM »

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The Vette has 45's on the front but the TGP is not a Vette.


But, in '89 & '90 a TGP cost about the same as a Corvette...about $27,000!!! :shock:  :twisted:  8)


If you're going to drive it in snow at all I would go with the 225.  It being just a little skinnier it might help with traction in the snow. Although, I had 225/50/16 on my Ciera and it would barely even move in the snow.
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2003, 06:50:22 PM »

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There is the chane a GTP has only 7 inch wide wheels.


No way dude.  My GTP has 16x8's and I can not get a 16x7 on it.  I tried.  The brake calipers will not allow it.

Right now I can not get it registered.  It will run me almost $200 for excise tax, sales tax, tags, title transfer, fees, etc...  Love Maine for the tax stuff.  They base the excise tax on MSPR!  Yea I know about it costing $27-$29K and so does the state, I told them I only paid $500 for it and they said I saved money on sales tax then.

Didnt check on insurance yet, cant wait for that one.  This will be my 6th car insured. :shock:

Someone has used this saying "If it were not for cars I would be rich"  of something like that.

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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2003, 11:24:44 PM »

What about the brakes didn't fit? I know that some GTP's had narrower wheels. I'm almost 100% the 5 spoke GTP wheels are 7 inch, and there are some honeycomb ones that are too?
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2003, 11:28:46 PM »

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What about the brakes didn't fit? I know that some GTP's had narrower wheels. I'm almost 100% the 5 spoke GTP wheels are 7 inch, and there are some honeycomb ones that are too?


5 spoke rims were 16x7", 25mm offset

GP crosslace (honeycomb) rims were 16x8", 25mm offset

Bonnie crosslace (honeycomb) rims were 16x7" , 46mm offset

They all had the same bolt pattern.
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2003, 02:51:32 AM »

With 3 season old snowtires 205/75/15's only on the front I had Zero problems in the snow last year. The TGP was the car I took to the mountain to go skiing!
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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2003, 09:24:22 AM »

I think some people use spacers to get those 5 spoke wheels on their cars but I'm not 100% sure.  I wouldnt want to use spacers.

The brake caliper is to big for a 16x7.  It wont seat all the way.  I learned that the hard way and got one from a Bonnie.  Its still in my barn with the rest of my wheel collection.  

The crosslace wheels are hard to find in 16x8 no doubt.  Especially in gold.

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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2003, 09:55:31 AM »

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I think some people use spacers to get those 5 spoke wheels on their cars but I'm not 100% sure.  I wouldnt want to use spacers.

The brake caliper is to big for a 16x7.  It wont seat all the way.  I learned that the hard way and got one from a Bonnie.  Its still in my barn with the rest of my wheel collection.  

The crosslace wheels are hard to find in 16x8 no doubt.  Especially in gold.


The 5 spoke wheel will fit on ANY grand prix with STOCK brakes, built from 1988-2003 WITHOUT the use of spacers.

The Bonnie rims will not work on the front of a grand prix built from 1988-1996 because the offset doesn't allow for brake clearance. It will hit the caliper. That is the same reason that 97-03 rims will not work on the front of an 88-96 grand prix without spacers.
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2003, 07:32:50 AM »

Thanks for clearing that up.  I have never tried another style wheel on the GTP of TGP.  

I really like the way the crosslace wheels look although a PITA to clean.
 

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