Tired of the 440T4? Or is your 440T4 just tired?

[turbokinetic]

... It appears that we probably have quite a bit more work to do to fit the taller 65-E. ...

It would be nice to see someone with a complete turbo 3.1 that isn't installed in a car try to bolt up the 65-E. I know a lot of you guys have spare engines, turbos, etc.

That would be the best way to tell for sure! 

There is propably at least 3/4 inch of aluminum that can be removed from the top of the case above the connector without causing any problems, too.

[z284pwr]

It was VERY CLOSE to the turbo on my car. I originally built the turbo system around a 440T4 transmission. I had to mod the shift cable bracket, and put aluminum lagging on the wire harness to keep the heat off it. Don't know if these pictures will help you see it much but here goes:

Here you can see how it relates to the bellhousing. The one round black connector is part of my harness and does not have to be in that location.

Having not designed it for a TGP definitely make it hard to tell how it would work.  If I do remember someone has bolted them together and determined the location of the turbo/mount is directly where the trans connector is making it basically impossible to do.  Besides even with it hooked up, that isn't the greatest idea to have the wires DIRECTLY under a turbo on the car, the aluminum sleeving like you did would definitely be required and hopefully will hold up.  Last thing that needs to happen is melted wires toghether, who know what could happen.

I believe the easier method for the TGP folks would be to try and put the 65E parts in the 60-HD case.

[smg980]

So what would be the best trans to use if the 4t65-e would not work? Does anyone have a parts list for a build up of the 4t60-HD? I am currently having my 3.1L turbo rebuilt and adding in a few stronger parts to the mix in order to be able to upgrade the turbo and would like to produce 350+ hp. I don't want to have to put the engine in just to have the trans blow up on me if I upgrade the turbo and produce over 300hp. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

-smg980

[GPChief]

Get with "Dave" from trippleedgeperformance.  He provided the parts for one of my transmission rebuilds that applied all the latest upgrades and several improved parts.  There is not a lot of options for "hard parts" like the 4T65HD.

A key element to always consider is thermal management.

[TGed]

I have a modified input shaft and an LSD in my 3t40...  I went from a 4 speed to a 3 speed.........  It was not that cheap to complete and rebuild, but from the info I received, it should be good to 480hp.

[Prospeeder]

I think with some long gears on the 3T40 it would be great for our Turbo setup, is your 3T40 built up or stock thier possibly that strong? I plan a Turbo 3.1 swap on my 6000 and its got the 3T40 that shifts perfect....id expect some aftermarket large trans cooler would definatly be a great idea as would shorter fluid service intervals, like every 15k drop the pan

[TGed]

I have a modified input shaft and an LSD in my 3t40...  I went from a 4 speed to a 3 speed.........  It was not that cheap to complete and rebuild, but from the info I received, it should be good to 480hp.

I think with some long gears on the 3T40 it would be great for our Turbo setup, is your 3T40 built up or stock thier possibly that strong? I plan a Turbo 3.1 swap on my 6000 and its got the 3T40 that shifts perfect....id expect some aftermarket large trans cooler would definatly be a great idea as would shorter fluid service intervals, like every 15k drop the pan

The trans is heavily modified per my last post and I run a 15,000lbs/gvw cooler with a fan..  I am running a lot bigger snail and a 3.5L motor now. 

[TurboGTU]

Build the x-over around the 4t65 harness connector and you'll be golden. The stock x-over has had its run anyway. Look more like a radiator x-pip 

[kuntzie]

it will clear.

[mfewtrail]

it will clear.

Got any pictures of it all bolted up Jeff?