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Offline a1990cavalierz24

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OK so I have a question, and wasn't sure where to post this. So I run the car for a little while and then shut it off. Then when I first start the car after a little while, it will sound like it is missing and the exhaust smells rich for about 10-15 seconds or so. Then after that, it clears up and runs fine. Does this have something to do with the TGP stock tune, or is it a delayed response from the oxygen sensor?
« Last Edit: June 22, 2010, 04:35:15 PM by a1990cavalierz24 »
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custom 2" charge pipes (smooth bent)
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Re: weird idle condition after being ran for a while then started again
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2010, 04:56:04 AM »
Sounds like the fuel injectors are leaking. Try hooking up a fuel pressure gauge and see if you loose fuel pressure after you shut it down. Or you can pull the UIM and remove the fuel rail and visually see if they are leaking
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Offline a1990cavalierz24

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Re: weird idle condition after being ran for a while then started again
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2010, 12:14:00 PM »
Well damn, I hope it is not the injectors. It has always done this since I have put the new Ford yellow top injectors in the new motor.
red 1990 Chevrolet Cavalier Z24
brand new GM 3.1L V6 crate engine
Garrett T25 turbo w/MBC, water and oil cooled
custom crossover with T25-style flange
2.5" downpipe with T25-style flange
custom 2" charge pipes (smooth bent)
Snow Performance Stage 1 Boost Cooler system (water/methanol injection) with 150 psi pump and 100 mm spray nozzle (good for up to 250 hp)
MSD 2-bar MAP sensor
Ford 19# yellow top injectors
TGP oil pan
K&N air filter RU-0800
3-wire Denso heated O2 sensor

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Re: weird idle condition after being ran for a while then started again
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2010, 06:12:30 PM »
Injectors or a cracked icm/coil
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Offline a1990cavalierz24

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Re: weird idle condition after being ran for a while then started again
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2010, 12:04:18 PM »
So if it were a cracked coil/ICM, wouldn't it throw a code? The only code it has thrown was a knock sensor code, and since I fixed that, it hasn't thrown any other codes.
red 1990 Chevrolet Cavalier Z24
brand new GM 3.1L V6 crate engine
Garrett T25 turbo w/MBC, water and oil cooled
custom crossover with T25-style flange
2.5" downpipe with T25-style flange
custom 2" charge pipes (smooth bent)
Snow Performance Stage 1 Boost Cooler system (water/methanol injection) with 150 psi pump and 100 mm spray nozzle (good for up to 250 hp)
MSD 2-bar MAP sensor
Ford 19# yellow top injectors
TGP oil pan
K&N air filter RU-0800
3-wire Denso heated O2 sensor

Offline Jonpro03

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Re: weird idle condition after being ran for a while then started again
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2010, 07:46:01 PM »
Actually, I don't think it would. I ran on a bad coil for 2 months before I figured it out. Thats OBD1 for ya.

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Offline a1990cavalierz24

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Re: weird idle condition after being ran for a while then started again
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2010, 11:41:49 PM »
Well that's interesting. Has anyone here had problems with the Ford yellow tops leaking? Also, it seems like it gets worse the shorter the amount of time the car is shut off. Now it will try to stall itself out when I put it in gear and give it a little bit of gas to get it going. But that lasts for like a minute tops.
red 1990 Chevrolet Cavalier Z24
brand new GM 3.1L V6 crate engine
Garrett T25 turbo w/MBC, water and oil cooled
custom crossover with T25-style flange
2.5" downpipe with T25-style flange
custom 2" charge pipes (smooth bent)
Snow Performance Stage 1 Boost Cooler system (water/methanol injection) with 150 psi pump and 100 mm spray nozzle (good for up to 250 hp)
MSD 2-bar MAP sensor
Ford 19# yellow top injectors
TGP oil pan
K&N air filter RU-0800
3-wire Denso heated O2 sensor

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Re: weird idle condition after being ran for a while then started again
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2011, 08:51:23 PM »
I have same problem, ever since I put in yellow tops, it idles weird, but runs fine. I think it's just cuz I got stock chip presently.
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Re: weird idle condition after being ran for a while then started again
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2011, 03:39:57 PM »
Stock tune on a modified engine is my opinion..
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Re: weird idle condition after being ran for a while then started again
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2011, 06:01:04 PM »
that's probably true, I am getting my chip redone, actually PMing flybynite when done with this mesage.
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  Ford C302 injectors
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