cold air intake

Started by marcus18, May 19, 2003, 05:33:54 PM

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marcus18

I have a cone filter attached to the hose that goes between the turbo and stock air box. it sits between the radiator and exaust manifold. It works great when cold but once warmed up power hits the floor. and I've noticed once its 220 or higher I have to do around 70mph to get it lower
anything lower and it can be cooled down easily but once it passes that mark it's there or higher. so...... what options are there for cold air???
I was thinking a hood scoop but I need room for a box to hold a cone filter. any ideas?


marcus

The Burning Rom

Just clamp the cone filter right on the turbo.  :D
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Mike J.

You probably don't need cold air induction because its not going to do a lot of good.  The best solution is to do the mod. of removing the fins in front of the intercooler.  This intercooler removes a lot of heat when it really needs it, just prior to going into the engine.  There is a law of heat transfer which says you will get a larger heat transfer efficiency when the to mediums are at very different temperatures.  Cold air inductions mostly just get heated up by the turbo.  I have ran my TGP's in Texas for years and do not notice a huge decrease in power on hot days.  I wrap the intake tube going from the I.C. to the T-body with header wrap so it maintains the cooler air of the I.C.  As far as keeping the coolant temp down, I just installed an extra fan in front of the radiator/condensor coil.
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bwawuz02

shane had an idea once of using an intake pipe with hollow walls (prolly about 1/4-1/2 inch thick) and filling it with liquid nitrogen, don't know if this is physically possible, but it sounds cool! the pressure required to keep Nitrogen in a liquid state is pretty high as nitrogen is a gas at room temp and pressure.
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1trucavalier

if you don't mind spending a few dollars you can make a cai out of a 96 civic intake with the 90deg bend on it.  Mine sucks air from the bottom of the engine bay and if I wanted to i could easily connect an 90 elbo to it and point it toward the front of the engine in by the support for ramairish affect  :lol:  or in the bumper wheel well area.  Intake was $50 and is polished.  I did have to cut like half of it but the other half you can toss or make the cai like I was explaining.
hi-flow intake, straight pipe, dsm bov, 24lb inj,  polished upper intake, turbo, and frt valve cover.

R Dubya

I think that might be a good idea, seeing as my RU-1390 K&N is melting from the heat of the turbo.  I might need to change that around a little.
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1trucavalier

click on my www! its really easy
hi-flow intake, straight pipe, dsm bov, 24lb inj,  polished upper intake, turbo, and frt valve cover.

turby

I'm in the middle of building an intake. I have an extra airbox to turbo hose I'm using. I bought a 2 1/2" to 2 1/4" reducer for an exhaust. I'm going to cut the hose shorter and attach the cone filter with the reducer. When it's done it will sit right against the intercooler vertically. With the fins gone from the condenser it should grab quite a bit of air. At least I hope it does. :lol:

R Dubya

Quote from: 1trucavalierif you don't mind spending a few dollars you can make a cai out of a 96 civic intake with the 90deg bend on it.  Mine sucks air from the bottom of the engine bay and if I wanted to i could easily connect an 90 elbo to it and point it toward the front of the engine in by the support for ramairish affect  :lol:  or in the bumper wheel well area.  Intake was $50 and is polished.  I did have to cut like half of it but the other half you can toss or make the cai like I was explaining.

Ok old post here, sorry it took me so long to reply.  I bought a new filter but I'm concerned that it may melt again.  Did you remove the A/C components to make the civic CAI fit?  Seems kinda tight in there.  I removed the fins on the A/C condenser but am interested in fixing this problem for a long period of time. :)  Any tips?
Ryan Warren
'89 TGP
It doesn't run anymore.

1trucavalier

damn just saw the post! :(  sorry!  I don't have a condenser, a/c compressor, or any other a/c components so my intake and filter go straight from the turbo down to bottom of the frame support.  I did the a/c delete mod :D !  If your a/c doesn't work and you don't want fix it then just get a belt for a beretta with no a/c and the tensioner pulley for a 95 cavalier and connect it where you a/c pulley is and wallah.  You cannot get a smaller belt for a 3.1L GP with no a/c because no 3.1L GP's came without it.  So ask for a 3.1L beretta, corsica, or cavalier.
hi-flow intake, straight pipe, dsm bov, 24lb inj,  polished upper intake, turbo, and frt valve cover.

turby

2.8's came with the option of no A/C. I saw an '88 GP once without A/C.

1trucavalier

thats why i stressed 3.1L!  I know you can get a 2.2L,2.3L or 2.8L with no a/c.
hi-flow intake, straight pipe, dsm bov, 24lb inj,  polished upper intake, turbo, and frt valve cover.