Turbo Insulation or xover or somthing

Prospeeder · January 16, 2005, 10:02:26 PM

can turbo insalation catch fire or smoke? its the silver padding stuff around it, cause i finally got my car to start cause its been cold, what it did was it started just fine, then shudderd then died, then i treid again, it cranked and cranked put put put gave it gas VROOM just fine, but smoke started coming off the turbo, or steam, i dont know wich, i had to hood open and it snowed cause i was charging the battery, and it seemed to come from either under or on the turbo insulation, but after 5 or 6 revs it stopped steaming or smoking wichever it was

any feedback?

GutlessSupreme · January 16, 2005, 10:23:51 PM

I've heard it can smoke a lot, at least when new. Doesn't catch fire though.. that'd kinda defy the point :lol:

Prospeeder · January 16, 2005, 10:34:18 PM

lol its far from new, its been Sub zero temps latley, and it hasnt been started for a while, and today it edged up to 14 degrees or so, so i tried to start it, and that happend

Jeff M · January 17, 2005, 12:03:11 AM

Quote from: Prospeederlol its far from new, its been Sub zero temps latley, and it hasnt been started for a while, and today it edged up to 14 degrees or so, so i tried to start it, and that happend

If it was raw gas from your engine not starting right away then that may have been the cause, it would be good to know for sure if it was gas, there is also a fuel line above that area that can leak, but if its just from inside the exhaust pipes then thats ok, it just found its way out the cracks around the turbo to down pipe, pretty common since most OEM pipes get a lot of taken off and replaced :lol: If it did not smell like gas then I would check for this the next time you start your enigne and see if it smells like raw exhaust, cold weather like this will help identify a leak in the exhaust in that area, might have to part the blankets some just be VERY carefull as the blankets are very fragile!!!

Its -13 here so quit bragging about it being warm there at 14 degrees :lol:

Jeff M

Prospeeder · January 17, 2005, 03:15:26 PM

ok, i started it again, its mabye 28-30 degrees, it started, then died, then started, i gave it some gas, it stayd on, but there was exhaust coming from around the turbo area, i hope its not my xover, please dont be, it never stalls ever, it smells like exhaust, after it warms up for 25-30 seconds u cant see the exhaust anymore, but u can smell it. And at the first start of starting, mabye 10-15 seconds, it blows black smoke, o2 sensor making it run too rich and not letting it start well mabye?

R Dubya · January 17, 2005, 03:23:25 PM

You can almost guarantee to yourself that the x-over is shot, almost all of them will crack. You should know that you can still run the car like that, but you will never know how well it can run without replacing that pipe.

Prospeeder · January 17, 2005, 03:28:09 PM

damnit, now i gotta save 425$ for a frickin thing. why so exspensive

R Dubya · January 17, 2005, 05:36:43 PM

All things considered it's not that bad at all. GM wants over $1500 for the thing and is still prone to failure. I've had one of Jeff M's for 5 years now and no problems! The first one he sent me cracked, but he sent a new one with flex bellows, reinstalled it and it's still holding on, more than 35,000 miles on it now.

If you can't change it I'm sure Jim W (idbeast) would be more than willing to change that pipe for a small fee.. he's done it at least 5 times now. (sorry Jim) :lol: He could probably do it in an hour.

z284pwr · January 17, 2005, 08:49:42 PM

Quote from: Prospeederdamnit, now i gotta save 425$ for a frickin thing. why so exspensive

If you saw one in person and saw how nice the thing is, you would know why its so much.

Prospeeder · January 17, 2005, 09:24:08 PM

ok, great, well, at least i can still drive it

idbeast · January 17, 2005, 11:43:06 PM

Not only can I install it I have one sitting on the floor next to me that I'm going to put in the 2nd TSTE. I've done 9 of them!!! I think the only one who has done more is Jeff M :shock: :shock:

Prospeeder · January 18, 2005, 05:55:13 PM

will driving with a cracked xover do anything bad to the rest of my motor? im not into screwing everything else up. How do these work, like, isnt it just exhaust going through? why would it make the car run so badly?

idbeast · January 18, 2005, 06:32:53 PM

Pulls in outside air, lets exhaust escape, runs rich taking out the O2 sensor in a very short time... to name a few.

Prospeeder · January 18, 2005, 07:58:30 PM

oh.... well this wont damage my motor if i run on it for a while till i get some money will it?

R Dubya · January 18, 2005, 09:14:42 PM

The only thing that I could think would be harmed was the cat converter from such a rich condition. Mine was plugged totally at around 120k, about 10k after I changed the pipe.