TGP on a diet

Started by TurboGTU, February 17, 2005, 11:43:28 PM

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dbtk2

Quote from: mfewtrailI already know that.....is your dad's GTP lightened? If not, it's gotta be at least 150-200lbs over what Tim's monte weighs. The monte ran 9.5 @ 78 mph at a higher elevation track which converted to 9.10 sec @ 81.52 mph back when he dyno'd 263whp....street tire run of course.  That 325whp was on 10psi and pump gas...I'm sure that T04E could pump out a good bit more than that once Tim gets it tuned more/does more supporting mods.

His car was lightened a little for the 12.08 pass, but the Monte is still way lighter.  My dads car is a 4 door, sunroof car, making it the heaviest possible combination available, not to mention its a 40th anniversary car so it has all the extra stuff for that as well, plus leather, etc...  We dropped about 100lbs. off the car with misc. little things here and there.  Full weight, with the stock 2.93 gears, stock torque convertor, etc... the car ran a 12.40.  From there we did torque convertor, gears, dropped some weight, did some suspension mods for better launches, and that got it down to the 12.08. (which actually for an M90/stock cam L67 thats damn good, he set the record by a longshot and it still hasn't been matched)  It also ran 7.7's in the 1/8 at 90mph when it was making those power levels.

But anyways, all I was really saying is that with Tims setup that made 325hp/350tq. he should be running in the mid 12's range fairly easily.  Depending on his powerband, traction, weight, etc... he might be able to go low 12's even.  With more boost obviously the car would be much more capable.  From the sounds of his setup, I'd say with the right amont of boost his current setup should be able to put him comfortably in the mid 11's.  I just don't know how well the LQ1 is going to handle those power levels because I don't know of anyone making that kind of power with them.  I'm not sure what kind of power levels it can support because I don't know anyone making tons of power with it, but it sounds like Tim will be testing the limits of it for sure.

Shawn
90 Maroon GP STE 3.1 I/C Turbo - SOLD!  :(
14.695 @ 94.49 w/2.228 60'
99 Green GP GT
9.75:1|K&N|160 tstat|no cat/ubend/res|ALT UD|Shift Kit|XPZ cam|Ported M90/TB/LIM/Heads|Powertuned|Pacesetters|42lb/hr|Stg 2 I/C|MPS|2.45"|ELEC WP|Zex 75/100/125|Walbro|ZZP IS|15/16"|AR103|Rollmaster|8 rib|MLS .052|ARP Head Studs|Billet FP|Alum Cradle
11.9912 @ 112.99 w/1.729 60', 347whp/417wtq on 93 octane/mustang dyno.

GangstGP

I suppose if I wasa big enough dohc I would try it :lol:

Probly in a northstar though. :lol: they get like a 1000 HP when you build the piss out of a early OBD1 Northstar and turbo it. at least the sand rails do. I dont know in a car.
daily driver: 1990 Turbo Grand Prix 180k miles
backup car: 1990 Turbo Grand Prix 118k miles
spare parts: TGP motor and tranny from a red '89

mfewtrail

Quote from: GangstGPthere was the 88 Beretta concept car twin turbo 3.4. saw an article one time, I think it was a w-body. the thing was pretty bad ass I guess. If you could build one like that.......I guess that would be cool.

Oh yeah...found the article for the twin turbo 3.3/3.4(seen 3.4 written somewhere else in regards to this car) Beretta.

http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/113_9806_top/index5.html  8)
'93 SE, '90 Black/tan TGP, & '90 Red/tan TGP

GangstGP

ok, now I want a Beretta and a 6000 steawd and make myself the baddest TGPU awd since the 80's  :shock:. would that work?
I was told that a TGP body would be too much of a hassle to convert to awd, so would a Beretta be a better platform to use?
daily driver: 1990 Turbo Grand Prix 180k miles
backup car: 1990 Turbo Grand Prix 118k miles
spare parts: TGP motor and tranny from a red '89

z284pwr

Quote from: GangstGPok, now I want a Beretta and a 6000 steawd and make myself the baddest TGPU awd since the 80's  :shock:. would that work?
I was told that a TGP body would be too much of a hassle to convert to awd, so would a Beretta be a better platform to use?

No it wouldnt it would be just as bad.  This topic has been discussed on the Beretta boards as well.  From what I remember, chassis are all different, rear-end would need to be fixed big time, chassis lengths is wrong, etc. etc.  Better idea would just to find an AWD in good shape and make a killer sleeper out of it.  No one is going to expect the epitome of shit box looking car to kick your ass :wink:

I dunno how strong the trans/transfer case, or whatever it would be called is though, it may not like super high torque numbers you could throw down with a bigger turbo, high stall converter, etc. etc. it may exit stage left really fast  :lol:

GangstGP

the transfer case is supposed to handle like 400+ hp and the tranny we were just talking about being the 3t40 with the highest torque rating. so yea, sleeper heaven.
daily driver: 1990 Turbo Grand Prix 180k miles
backup car: 1990 Turbo Grand Prix 118k miles
spare parts: TGP motor and tranny from a red '89