Need a data cable for TGP

[R Dubya]

I just got a laptop a couple of weeks ago in a trade with my brother, and I am looking to get setup to do my own data logging and and eventually chip tuning.  I want to learn as much as I can along the way, but to start I need someone to point me in the direction of the cable and software that best suits our application.  

I took the car out for a spin today to exercise it's joints and to fill/add stabilzer to the tank.  It has been about 50 on average here the last week or 10 days, the roads were dry, and I just wanted 20 minutes.   Man I can't wait until April.   :lol: Got a bunch of bugs to work out and finally have some ambition (and $$) to do it.  

Anyway what's the consensus?

[Invasion1]

I have a ALDL cble from Mastach ( www.mastach.com ) quality assembled unit and im happy with mine.

Has a ebay store also

http://stores.ebay.com/MaStach-com

there are some sites that show you how to build your own cable but thats to much work for me  8)

[TGPilot]

Also you can get the Moates USB cable setup. I have the ALDU1 and the CABL1 seen on this page for datalogging... http://www.moates.net/index.php?cPath=24_43

Works great with the TunerPro RT program.

I will be buying the Ostrich Emulation setup in spring when I start to play with the go fast part ad-ons! :wink:

[R Dubya]

So probably around $50 for a cable, how much for software?  That mastach cable comes with software, but is it trial?

[Invasion1]

all the software included with the Mastach cable is trial and more or less useless.

Im using TSS Datamaster for my datalogging and i love it  8)

http://ttspowersystems.com/

you get a few free datalogs before you have to register the software then its unlimited.

here is the DL link http://www.ttspowersystems.com/software/dm350/8F/setup-8F.exe

its $100 to register it and well worth it IMO

[Invasion1]

i got my datamaster registration from here $95

http://www.akmcables.com/dss.htm

also a informative link

[R Dubya]

so again I am a complete newbie when it comes to this.  I assume that USB is faster than serial, but I don't know for sure.  I like the looks of the TSS datamaster and think thats the route I will be going, but still undecided on the cable.  Which is better?  I see on that link you posted Dave that they have a Y cable, with both I and II connectors.. will that do what I want it to do and more?

[Invasion1]

this is the cable i have

its serial port and works plenty fast for simple datalogging.....i have no experiance with the USB style so i can't offer any help on them  :oops: .

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ALDL-TPI-TBI-GM-OBD1-ECM-DIAGNOSTIC-CABLE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33598QQitemZ8011606376

the ones listed on AKM seem to offer compatability for OBD1 (TGP compatable) and OBD2 if you have a scan tool/software that will work with it.

again i dunno forsure because i have no experiance with OBD2 stuff at this time.

if you want Datamaster registration i highly reccomend Andrew at AKM for that

email him and he will let you know all the info.

hope that helps a bit....

[dbtk2]

Also you can get the Moates USB cable setup. I have the ALDU1 and the CABL1 seen on this page for datalogging... http://www.moates.net/index.php?cPath=24_43

Works great with the TunerPro RT program.

I will be buying the Ostrich Emulation setup in spring when I start to play with the go fast part ad-ons! :wink:

So to tune all I need is the ALDU1 USB-to-ALDL Converter, the CABL1 OBD1-Style ALDL Connector, and the tunerpro RT program right?

If so I'll buy it today!

Shawn

[twinturbosedan]

So to tune all I need is the ALDU1 USB-to-ALDL Converter, the CABL1 OBD1-Style ALDL Connector, and the tunerpro RT program right?

If so I'll buy it today!

Shawn

no, you'll still need a an EPROM burner and a UV eraser at the very least (or skip the UV eraser and use EEPROMs).  does Tunerpro RT edit .bin files and work as a datalogger?  or do you need Datamaster TTS along with it?  i'm kind of confused as to what Tunerpro RT can do.

[Invasion1]

Looking closer at the moates cable.... :) does that plug right into the ALDL port under the dash??

one thing i hare about mine is having to put each pin in the port individually  :x

looks like a better unit....

since Craig is a member here he should give us a forum discount  :wink:

[R Dubya]

the ones listed on AKM seem to offer compatability for OBD1 (TGP compatable) and OBD2 if you have a scan tool/software that will work with it.

Yeah Dave that helps a lot, I just picked up that cable, unfortunately I probably won't mess with it until spring time, maybe I will who knows.  I assume that the Datamaster program is only for use with an OBDI vehicle.. I'm sure there is software that will allow you to read instead of using a scan tool.  Oh well, this will be for my personal use and just to get oriented with this new stuff.  Eventually I will try to make my own chip and dive in head first..

Something to keep in mind, maybe you could direct me to a good EMPROM burner?  Do I need a blank one, or will my stocker work fine?

[Invasion1]

That version of Datamaster i linked above is only useable for the TGP and not anything else.

the datamaster build 8F for TGP only

ok you have the cable ordered, download the datamaster trial 8f for the TGP.

as for a burner i have this one

http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=3081

ugly and crude but works great and simple to use its basic burn functions.

maybe someone has something similar they can reccomend??

[Invasion1]

as for chips

http://www.moates.net/product_info.php?cPath=26_38&products_id=38 from our friend Craig Moates

i use this Moates automotive memory adapter which allows no modifications to the stock Memcal and i find it works better.

again from our friend Craig Moates  :wink:

http://www.moates.net/product_info.php?cPath=25_36&products_id=32

[R Dubya]

ok.  I will download it sometime this week sometime.  I am excited to start seeing the problems I have with this car from a different pov and possibly correct things that I may not even notice are wrong.  Thanks man.