5 Spd TGP.. Finally Finishing Small Details.. Vid added 10-22

Started by 89BlackTGP, February 25, 2009, 03:42:19 AM

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89BlackTGP

Just bought a TGP sunday.. been working on it for a few hours monday and tuesday after work.. Claims the motor was rebuilt b/c the piston rings were worn out and was causing the engine to burn oil.. We all know what the problem is.. I never seen a 60*V6 Burn oil b/c of rings with only 126,000 miles.. Asked the guy if the turbo was rebuilt and he said no it works fine.. Well he never ran the car and it has sat for 4 yrs with a rebuilt engine in it... not running.. It had 2 alarm systems in it and i think they wouldnt let the fuel pump kick on thats y they didnt get it running.. The Fuel pump does work and the gas tank is rusted out somewhere because when it was hauled home gas was leaking.. I ripped out every piece of alarm equiptment.. Now im dealing with the Headaches of hoses where they shouldnt be and routed wrong.. There is a brake line JB welded into the Coolant Temp Senser hole on the front head for the Turbo return and the rear head has the plug in it.. So the heads are reversed and there is no Temp Senser.. The Impeller hits the housing on the turbo so im replacing the turbo.. When taking the turbo out removing the lines and noticed there was no Oil Cooler.. The adapter is there for the Oil Pressure Senser and the Oil Feed but no Cooler.. Was there some that didnt get a cooler or did someone remove it? Also the Drain back tube is broke or something and was pieced together with hoses.. I am going to remove the heads in order to fix there JB welded Brake line Coolant return.. IN the pic the brake line is by the water pump.




1996 Pontiac Grand Prix SE 3100/4T60-E (Black)

1995 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP 3.4 DOHC/4T60-E (White)

1990 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix 3.1/4T60 (Black)

mfewtrail

All of them came with the cooler, so they probably left it off when rebuilding it for some unknown reason. It sounds like you've got your work cut out for you on that one. :icon_eek:
'93 SE, '90 Black/tan TGP, & '90 Red/tan TGP

killinprixs

#2
if you have the piece (oil filter adapter) with the oil pressure sender sticking out of it, that IS the cooler.  the 2 lines coming out of it provide the coolant to "cool" the oil.   With your blocked of coolant temp sensor on the head,  get a 3 wire coolant temp sensor (lower intake) and wire it in with the xtra connector that went to the rear head.


IF you can get  pictures of the headaches i might be able to help you out.

89BlackTGP

Ill get you pictures of it all now.. Just got the heads off about 15 mins ago.. There was also a bolt used as a head bolt that isnt even a head bolt.. if that made sense..
1996 Pontiac Grand Prix SE 3100/4T60-E (Black)

1995 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP 3.4 DOHC/4T60-E (White)

1990 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix 3.1/4T60 (Black)

killinprixs

yea get some pics ill be around a little while longer tonight.. take a picture of the headbolt too i wanna see it. haha

89BlackTGP

1996 Pontiac Grand Prix SE 3100/4T60-E (Black)

1995 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP 3.4 DOHC/4T60-E (White)

1990 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix 3.1/4T60 (Black)

89BlackTGP

Ok added the pictures as you can see..  The brake line in the head, the missing oil cooler, the broken drain back with hose making it work, and the front seats that i will sell if any intrest..

Anyone have an extra drain back tube? or can i get the AN fittings and make it work?
1996 Pontiac Grand Prix SE 3100/4T60-E (Black)

1995 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP 3.4 DOHC/4T60-E (White)

1990 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix 3.1/4T60 (Black)

GPChief

2004 GTP -  3.8 Blown - Only modding for MPG.
1997 GTP  - 3.8 Blown - Too many mods to list.
1996 GTP - 3.4 DOHC - Twin to my 1997.
1995 SE - soon to be a 3.8 turbo car.
1990 TSTE x 2 white cloth
1990 TSTE x 1 maroon leather
1990 TGP - 5 speed.

89BlackTGP

Quote from: GPChief on February 25, 2009, 08:56:41 PM
What is wrong with your seats?

Nothing that i know of all functions work and can confirm that once i get the battery in.. I figure let someone have a nice set.. there are no rips or tears in the leather.. besides the 4 way and compressor sitting on them.. both pass and driver in real good shape.. like i said if any intrest... i can get them more pics..
1996 Pontiac Grand Prix SE 3100/4T60-E (Black)

1995 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP 3.4 DOHC/4T60-E (White)

1990 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix 3.1/4T60 (Black)

bake82

I might have a turbo for you if your interested.  T28 hybrid in a T25 casing.  $300 shipped!
Kyle


1988 Cutlass Supreme, White/Black Leather, 3.1 Turbo 5 spd, coming soon  95k miles

Prospeeder

make sure you get a brand new set of headbolts, there not too much money, we have stretch bolts so they must be replaced. one does look different than the rest thats for sure, its because its threaded for the front mount to thread into.
1990 TGP Chipped RU-1390 K&N
2001 Audi S4 Stage 2
1999 VW Beetle
1997 BMW 740iL

89BlackTGP

Quote from: bake82 on February 26, 2009, 04:45:00 PM
I might have a turbo for you if your interested.  T28 hybrid in a T25 casing.  $300 shipped!

I have one already from a member. I will keep you in mind though.  For a spare once it's running.  Thanks for the offer.
1996 Pontiac Grand Prix SE 3100/4T60-E (Black)

1995 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP 3.4 DOHC/4T60-E (White)

1990 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix 3.1/4T60 (Black)

89BlackTGP

Quote from: Prospeeder on February 26, 2009, 05:44:05 PM
make sure you get a brand new set of headbolts, there not too much money, we have stretch bolts so they must be replaced. one does look different than the rest thats for sure, its because its threaded for the front mount to thread into.

Yes I have a head bolt set on it's way. The head bolts use a 15mm soviet and the one that was just sitting in the hole was a 13mm socket. The threads were stripped and the bolt size was way smaller than a head bolt. It almost looks like a alternator bolt. The long ones.
1996 Pontiac Grand Prix SE 3100/4T60-E (Black)

1995 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP 3.4 DOHC/4T60-E (White)

1990 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix 3.1/4T60 (Black)

TGed

Could be a starter bolt too.  lol

That car is pretty hacked up. 
Good luck with the extensive project!
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89BlackTGP

Quote from: TGed on February 27, 2009, 01:35:36 AM
Could be a starter bolt too.  lol

That car is pretty hacked up. 
Good luck with the extensive project!

I'm just hoping the block is ok. It was suppose to be rebuilt. The top end is all hacked b/c the owner put it together and forgot and put things where they shouldn't have gone.  I have it all under control. If this engine doesn't work out but hopefully it does I'll just bolt all the turbo stuff to a 3100 and call it a day. I'll post up some pics of the engine bay as it sits now later today.
1996 Pontiac Grand Prix SE 3100/4T60-E (Black)

1995 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP 3.4 DOHC/4T60-E (White)

1990 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix 3.1/4T60 (Black)