5 Spd TGP.. Finally Finishing Small Details.. Vid added 10-22

[killinprixs]

its not that hacked, at least the block is painted nicely get that oil cooler and you'll be all set.

[89BlackTGP]

Ok worked on it more today and not liking what  am seeing maybe i could be wrong but hopefully somebody could help me here.. The oil pan looks to be a N/A and was modified for the tube to work but has been hacked so far that it needs a Turbo Pan.. Since the pan is a N/A i am thinking the block and heads are N/A.. So i have a picture of the Block vin numbers and the Letter that is casted into the block.. i want to make sure that is the right casting letter.. In the picture u can kinds see the numbers.. there are 2 sets of number.. the last part of my vin and another set that i dont know what they mean.. But anyway my VIN is stamped crooked and on an angle is that right??? Almost looks to be someone else has stamped it in? maybe? I have a picture of the pistons too to make sure they are Turbo pistons also.. How do i confirm the heads are turbo heads? If anyone can comfirm these for me it would be greatly appreciated.. So now i will be pulling the pan to replace it and hopefully put it back together the right way.. I also got all new Silicone hose for the water and oil..

[killinprixs]

i believe the last numbers in my heads were 511.   Hopefully someone chimes in about the block, if it is the NA engine, i wouldnt worry too much about it.  I dont think anyone is 100% sure if there is any difference.

[89BlackTGP]

where were them numbers at?

[mfewtrail]

If the VIN on the block matches your car, then it's the stock block. Our blocks have the "T" cast into them just like the NA ones. Even if you had an entire NA engine, there wouldn't be anything to worry about. Josh's(RIP) old turbo cutlass had an NA engine with a tgp turbo + tuning and made more power than the majority of the TGP's on this board. It made 230whp on a dyno dynamics dynamometer which is pretty impressive. On a dynojet, it would have likely been around 260whp. The NA vs. TGP heads are not a big concern either. The TGP heads offer a very slight reduction in compression that is almost not worth mentioning.

[89BlackTGP]

well thats good to hear.. woo

[dogginred90]

I was going to say, I just put 2.8 heads on my TGP and it runs great.

[Prospeeder]

the cranks and rods are all forged, and it has a higher flowing oil pump....from what has been told. I want to belive it so our cars are extra cool  :icon_razz:

[89BlackTGP]

LOL i like that one.. :laugh: Its true though according to the background that i found..

http://www.turbograndprix.com/Extensive%20Details%20and%20Differences.htm

All the Uniqueness and Useless info found here..

Does anyone have the parts im looking for?

Oil Pan?
Oil Drain Back
Oil Cooler
Hard Pipes For Water Supply From Water Pump To Oil Cooler And Turbo
Heater Core Supply Tube
Fuel Lines From Rail
Etc..

[killinprixs]

The crank is cast iron all though id like to believe this stuff too, but that page is full of errors and has no source of proof.  Look where it say about the crank "design from Chevy astro"  what the hell is that supposed to mean. chevy astros were RWD and has 4.3 90 degree v6s.  I think who ever wrote that was trying to "hype" up the history and amount of thought that was put into the TGP engine.  Possibly Jeff M wanting people to think their engines were forged so he wouldnt have a problem selling his chips.

[89BlackTGP]

Well Heres an update. pulled the pan off to put a turbo pan back on and just killing me now.. the rods and caps are labeld like this 3/3 : 1/4 : 1/1 : 3/3 : 4/1 : 3/3 that is going from 1 to 6 this is not good.. Also found all rod cap nuts just a touch over finger tight..  :icon_confused: pulling the motor out tomorrow for later on this week to inspect and measure everything to see if it needs to go to the machine shop.. Never ending battle!!! Hopefully after this it should be it the engine will be finished.. the previous owner i can now say is a hack.. Pictures to show the shame..

Also found the transmission painted a 2 colors.. green and black..the torque converter is green also.. Also see a rusty funky color on the cv shaft that goes into the trans... :icon_confused:

[killinprixs]

ohh crap your lucky you checked that!

[89BlackTGP]

ohh crap your lucky you checked that!

Yea Tell me about it.. Or else 6 Rods would be going through the pan!!

[TGP Nick]

 :icon_eek:  Wow man!

[TGed]

That car is pretty hacked up. 
Good luck with the extensive project!

/\  lol



That sure does suck!