I went to a car show this past weekend and met some great guys from the Southeastern Grand Prix Assoc. They took pics of my car and added them to the web site. Some of the mods listed were future mods but they were listed as current mods. I have most of them but no the Jeff M. crossover yet. Anyway take a look. http://www.segpa.org/members/r_young.shtml
Thanks
Rick young
Looks Sweet, VERY CLEAN!. This is exactly what my intake looks like :) except i put a breather on my valve cover so that i would not suck in oily gasses threw my turbo anymore.
(http://www.segpa.org/images/members-pics/ryoung2.jpg)
Shane
Thanks,
I thought the same thing but there dosen't seem to be the 1st hint of oily residue in the intake and some believe alittle vacum pressure is important.
I do have a crank case breather filter from APC if I want to change but this car is still brand new...well sorta. I mean it has only 67K orig miles and those pics don't do it justice.
I saw your post about making an intake and thought, great. He's gone and made what took me forever to find. Not to mention I bought mine and only used 1/4 of the entire contents. It was for a 95 Mitsubishi eclipse cold air intake. I only used 1 small section, but it was a bolt on application.No cutting at all. Sounds like you made the same thing for probably alot less.
Keep it up, I'm waiting on the down pipe results. I'll be your 1st customer for one.
Rick
pull your intake to TB hose and look at the throttle plate. oil will build up there if you got the intake sucking from the pcv (give it some time). I just slapped a filter on mine. I did though put the pcv on the rear valve cover. Your engine bay looks scweeet and clean.
what your saying makes sense but doesn't make sense :?: If your pcv holds pressure and then releases at a preset value/internal spring pressure (what ever it uses) then not using the pcv will give you no internal pressure. This is my 3rd turbo car, and a bunch of n/a built up cars and I never had a problem. So who knows. IMO pcv is just some emmissions BS!
In the long run i am going to get a ketch can.. mine was just temp.
Shane
In the long run i am going to get a ketch can.. my filter is just temp. fix
BTW is anyone willing to host my TGP engine pic for me :) some day my engine bay will look so fresh and so clean clean like his.
Shane
go to yahoo.com and click on photos. its free to put your pics on it.
Does this work?
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/redzmonte/lst?.dir=/1990+Turbo+Grand+Prix&.view=t
(http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/264e494c/bc/1990+Turbo+Grand+Prix/MandSProduction.com+TGP+intake.jpg?bcaACs.AK0XdChs3)
RedZ
no! you need to go back and change it to PUBLIC access. right now its on private. I did the same thing with mine.
Quote from: 1trucavalierno! you need to go back and change it to PUBLIC access. right now its on private. I did the same thing with mine.
thanks.. fixed
BTW! sorry for hijacking your thread :)
How much wuld you charge me for one of those intakes, RedZ? Maybe a couple inches longer on the filter end.
Quote from: redturbo90How much wuld you charge me for one of those intakes, RedZ? Maybe a couple inches longer on the filter end.
Let me price it out. that one on my car is just plain alluminized steel. I can powdercoat it any color. I was thinking of doing mine in Black Chrome.. but not i might do gold to match the rest of the car i am not sure yet.
Let me price it out and get back to you guys on what your looking at Cost wise.
Shane
I just want something simple. Something paintable.
Quote from: redturbo90I just want something simple. Something paintable.
I include powdercoating in the price of my intakes. I can leave it raw alluminized steel if your going to paint it.
Shane
Will I still get charged the same price?
Quote from: redturbo90Will I still get charged the same price?
I can take off a couple of bux if you don't want it coated. I get powder coating on my intakes so cheap the price isnot going to be effected very much.
Shane
OK, just get a price on how you normally do them. Can I get one custom made to the lengths I want?
Quote from: redturbo90OK, just get a price on how you normally do them. Can I get one custom made to the lengths I want?
Its harder to go any farther then i have it.. its up next to the fan now. any farther and the filter won't fit.
My next thing i was going to check was having it go over to the stock spot on the passanger side putting the filter in under the plastic and running a pipe over to the plastic.
Shane
Mine wouldn't be going towards the fan. It's going straight down. I'll have some extra room around my engine after all the A/C stuff is gone.
very sweet! What kind of glaze/polish did you put on your car, it looks awesome. Also, where did you get your 3" downpipe from? Very nice car!
Thanks, I just use a 1 step wax called fast wax made by Presta products. It can be purchased from body shop supply stores. I keep the car in the garage and it isn't driven daily so its pretty easy to have it ready for shows.
I don't have a 3" downpipe yet. It was placed on by mistake, when I joined the SEGPA (southeastern grand prix assoc) It asked for current mods in one section and future mods in the next. Somehow the future mods were translated to current mods. Sorry for the confusion.
I'm actually waiting on Shane ( Redzmonte) for his 2 1/2" down pipe. It seems to be as much as can be fitted in there.
Thanks
Rick
Quote from: 1trucavalierpull your intake to TB hose and look at the throttle plate. oil will build up there if you got the intake sucking from the pcv (give it some time). I just slapped a filter on mine. I did though put the pcv on the rear valve cover. Your engine bay looks scweeet and clean.
2 cents here.
The fitting on the front cover is a breather, for the crankcase to suck in air. This is part of the PCV system. The PCV valve, on the back cover, sucks air out of the crankcase. Since the internal volume of the engine is always changing as the pistons go up and down there needs to be some way to allow this change.
On older cars they just vented to the atomsphere. However, toxic gases build up in the crankcase, from oil vapor, blowby, and fuel vapors. To contain these gases, the are recovered by the PCV system. By drawing fresh air into the crankcase, and out into the intake manifold they are burned as part of combustion. The PCV valve meters the amount of crankcase vapors that get drawn into the intake. Vapor is not supposed to go out the breather at the front of the engine. However, as engines wear, blowby increases and the crankcase becomes pressurized beyond the point the PCV valve can evacuate it. This is especially true on TURBO cars as the PCV valve can leak manifold boost pressure into the crankcase as well. So vapor will get PUSHED out of the crankcase, and into the intake stream.
Many people think that there is a vacuum in the intake tract which causes the vapor to be drawn out of the crankcase. While it can be argued that there is in fact a small vacuum as air is drawn through the air filter (pressure drop) this is not what is responsible for the oil entering the intake tube. The vacuum from the PCV valve far outweighs the small vacuum that could be present in the intake tract.
Chris
cool info!
mine vents out w/ just the open filter. when i was dynoing i saw it venting out the filter. so it does work bolth ways. Maybe not as good but it definatly lets out smoky/oily air. the PVC will suck it out allot better then it it will vent out but it still works.
Shane
Quote from: RedZMontemine vents out w/ just the open filter. when i was dynoing i saw it venting out the filter. so it does work bolth ways. Maybe not as good but it definatly lets out smoky/oily air. the PVC will suck it out allot better then it it will vent out but it still works.
Shane
You have a small filter on the front valve cover I assume and you saw vapor from this?
Thats what I was trying to illustrate. Its not SUPPOSED to vent out the front breather. But it will for a variety of reasons, like you have stated, even without the 'vacuum' of the intake air when the breather is piped to the intake pipe. Especially under boost, when there is no manifold vacuum to evacuate the crankcase, the only place for it to go is out the breather.
Chris
so what is the correct thing to do to prevent long term engine damage if any ? put a pcv on front and rear?
Quote from: 1trucavalierso what is the correct thing to do to prevent long term engine damage if any ? put a pcv on front and rear?
the correct thing is to hook it up like stock. put a nipple on the intake and run the the breather for the valve cover back into the vaccume side of the intake.
Shane
I just noticed today that there's a slight oil build up in my intake.. what all needs to be done to fix this?
My TGP is still unregistered until I sell the Cutlass, so I can't drive it. Now is the time I'd like to look in to fixing this..
Thanks in advance..
Started a new thread for this topic
http://www.netavalanche.com/tgp/viewtopic.php?t=1041