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Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: TGPilot on August 12, 2002, 08:00:27 AM
Hello all..

As many of you know I am doing a 5-Speed swap in my TGP. The donor car's previous owner had epoxied the shift boot plate into the console trim piece and there is no way I can work with this. I need to find a boot and boot trim piece or the top console trim that surrounds the shifter and the trip computer. I will pay for it, or maybe we can trade for something. The trim surround comes off pretty easy...there are two 7mm screws hiding in by the ashtray door and the rest is held on by clips up under the trip computer screen (no other hidden screws). The shift knob had thread lock on it so it may take some hand strenth to get it to un-screw, but it is screwed on. Hope someone can help... 8)
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: twinturbosedan on August 20, 2002, 03:03:06 AM
hello, i have a 5-speed shifter plate & boot from a '90 Grand Prix.  it came with my Getrag 282 when i did the 5-speed conversion on my CS.  i ended up using a console from an '89 Grand Prix so i have no need for it ('89 and '90 apparantly have different consoles).  i have a whole extra shifter from a '90 GP also.  i'm looking for TGP parts, ecspecially the x-over and rear exhaust manifold.  i am in Laramie, WY, 2hrs North of Denver.  
joshua
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: TGPilot on August 20, 2002, 06:53:22 AM
Name your price. I need it as the boot and plate from the donor car is looking ugly. If you have a PayPal account let me know and I will shoot you some $$ otherwise let me know your address and I will overnight you the cash. I don't have any TGP parts...some GP SE parts, but they are getting thin... 8)
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: TGPilot on September 17, 2002, 09:39:32 AM
malibuolds...what do you think? Only thing I used from you was the trim plate. I got the boot done at a local interior shop...he made it out of real soft leather instead of vinyl.

(http://www.netavalanche.com/kenny/TGP5Speed.jpg)
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: turby on September 17, 2002, 01:45:48 PM
:eek2:  Wwwwwwaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!  I want a 5-speed! I want a 5-speed. It's not fair. I miss my 5-speed sooooooo much.
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: Black Pheonix on September 17, 2002, 03:09:51 PM
it looks way cool, your interior is imaculant, how is it that your steer wheel is in such good condition, my is very beat up. Speaking of steering my car is kind of tough to turn, there are some times that i need two hands, is this right or is my pump going out? Thanks,
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: waskie on September 17, 2002, 05:15:16 PM
RE. the interior he bought it from a guy who took good care of it :cry: ....BTW redturbo90
I have a 6 speed.   :twisted:

(http://www.netavalanche.com/tgpweb/salepics/DSCF0117.JPG)
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: twinturbosedan on September 17, 2002, 05:17:33 PM
wow that looks really nice!!!  i have to buy new carpet and get my seats steam cleaned before i dare post pics of my interior heh heh.  BTW what's your next mod :)
joshua
Title: Trannies
Post by: corvette on September 17, 2002, 08:39:21 PM
Yeah, Waskie, and my Vette has a Seven Speed, so what do you say to that!!!!!!!

I still like the TGP, cause it is kinda fun to point and shoot, just point the wheels where you want to go, punch it, and hang on cause you just kicked a buckin bronko with a hot poker!

By the way, folks, the conversion really looks great, he did a bang up job, and deserves all the praise and credits for a 'Quality is Job 1'.....ooops, wrong car line, but you get the point.
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: waskie on September 17, 2002, 08:42:53 PM
Vette, reverse doesn't count.  

Just playin
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: TGPilot on September 18, 2002, 06:43:58 AM
Thanks for the praise...I'm glad you guys like it! :D I enjoy it very much, but now I have nothing to do to the car. It runs like a top and everything is done that needs tinkering...  :wink:  I guess I need to find a winter project car. Waskie definitely took very good care of the car and made it easy for me to keep things looking good.

Black Phoenix...you should not need two hands to steer your car. Obviously check the fluid level, and I would even change it out with clean stuff before going after the pump or the rack.
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: Black Pheonix on September 18, 2002, 06:54:44 AM
I though it was a little too stiff for a Grand Prix but i figured maybe it was special for TGPs. Anyways i checked it when i got it, and it was way too low, i filled it up, but i was wondering if there was possible pump damage. Thanks,
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: TGPilot on September 18, 2002, 07:40:52 AM
If it was run dry it could cause pump damage. What did you fill it back up with?
Title: 7-speed for sure
Post by: corvette on September 18, 2002, 11:17:29 AM
Waskie, no joke, it is a 7-speed forward, and 1 reverse. What it is is a Doug Nash Muncie 4 speed w/ auto-overdrive. That vintage (84-88) was available with an automatic overdrive which activiates in the 1-2 shift if enabled, so 2nd, 3rd, and 4th have dual range, so they call the setup a 4+3 manual. Effectively, the overdrive is in op in each gear 2-4, and the gearing is such that there really are 7 distinct selections. (makes crusin easy, since you don't have to row as many gears, but they're there when you need 'em)

The car has so much torque, that for everyday chugging around, OD is acceptable, but when I mash the go pedal, it automatically drops down 1/2 gear, which instantly brings the engine speed up into the torque band, and that combined with the throttle response and torque of the TPI L98, makes for a pleasant surprise launch when passing!

Next time you come through KC to see the Chiefs loose, give me a shout, I'll show it to ya!
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: 1trucavalier on December 13, 2002, 12:39:33 PM
oh shitttt! I bought a 89 ste non turbo 4dr center console with 5 speed shifter, cables etc.....  I hope its not that different from my 90 model.  I kind like having the fake navigaition glowing in the center.  Is it that different?  It won't be here until next wed so I have to wait
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: Jeorge on December 14, 2002, 11:59:58 AM
Quote from: 1trucavalieroh shitttt! I bought a 89 ste non turbo 4dr center console with 5 speed shifter, cables etc.....  I hope its not that different from my 90 model.  I kind like having the fake navigaition glowing in the center.  Is it that different?  It won't be here until next wed so I have to wait

well umm the ste Didnt become a GP untill 1990 so if its a STE GP console should fit.



BTY I also have a 5spd console for sale. from a 90 SE 5spd with the DIC mount too...

its costs about $8 to ship so if anyone wants it I'll take $20 shipped for it...
there are 2-4 small pinholes in the boot
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: turby on December 14, 2002, 12:30:08 PM
I wonder if a 5-speed plate would work on an automatic? I may be interested Jeorge.
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: Chris A on December 14, 2002, 04:31:17 PM
FWIW, the 5 speed and automatic consoles are interchangeable. However, the Shift Indicator Plate on the automatics and the shift boot on the manuals is kinda glued inplace. With that exception, they are interchangeable. Its possible to pop out the shift boot/shift indicator and pop in the right part, you just have to apply a little glue to the tabs where it connects.
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: turby on December 14, 2002, 07:08:59 PM
What I meant was , will the boot on the 5-speed plate go over the auto shifter. And will it go forward and back far enough to reach 1 thru park?

I have a shift knob out of a newer GTP with the switch on the side. Having the boot would hide the wires.
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: Jeorge on December 15, 2002, 06:23:47 PM
well tomarrow if it is warm Im going to go and start the STE and put the winter Tires on it....and I can compair and see.....
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: turby on December 15, 2002, 06:31:39 PM
Thanks Jeorge.
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: 1trucavalier on December 16, 2002, 06:56:03 AM
Your right! The car is a 88 gp 4 door 5-speed now  how rare is that!
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: Jeorge on December 16, 2002, 08:36:03 AM
Quote from: 1trucavalierYour right! The car is a 88 gp 4 door 5-speed now  how rare is that!

well really rare being the w body gp 4 door wasnt made untill 1990
and about 1/8 of them where 5spds
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: 1trucavalier on December 16, 2002, 12:33:46 PM
well thats what the guy said he said!  I initially called a junkyard in pa because i saw they had a clutch master cyl for an 88 gp,  i asked if he had any more parts off of it, a he told me he had the shifter, cables, clutch master, slave, clutch pedal, brake pedal, motor mounts, and clutch switch which i ordered.  I asked what kind of car it was and he said it was a 4dr 88 5-speed grand prix.  I didn't see the actual veghicle so I don't know if he is wrong or not but i got the stuff so it really doesn't matter to me :D
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: Jeorge on December 17, 2002, 11:19:46 AM
just took a quick glimps looks like it "Might" work with an auto. didnt bring that 5spd console out because its Fn cool out there in MN.....
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: turby on December 17, 2002, 07:22:53 PM
Will you hang onto that plate for me until I get some extra $$$$ ? X-mas has me a little tight right now.
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: Jeorge on December 17, 2002, 08:25:59 PM
well its not going anyware.....you have first dibs
Title: Need 5-Speed console Plate and boot...
Post by: turby on December 17, 2002, 08:36:29 PM
Thanks, Jeorge!  8)