I was looking for a particular cone filter for my TGP and someone told me to check the K&N website so I did. Wow! They have thousands of filters, for every size. I just looked up the dimensions that were mentioned in the last K&N thread (http://www.netavalanche.com/tgp/viewtopic.php?t=6) and changed them for what I wanted. I wanted a pure round filter with an angle so it would clear the coolant cap but all the ones mentioned on this website were the "Universal Oval Straight Filters" section. I wanted a round filter, not oval, and it needed to be short enough that it didnt hit the intercooler.
According to K&N's website, all the filters previously mentioned are Oval Straight Type, like this: (http://www.knfilters.com/images/universal/Oval-Universal-Dim.gif)
The type I wanted was "Round Straight Type" like this: (http://www.knfilters.com/images/universal/Round-Universal-Dim.gif)
So here's what I'm guessing for these filters mentioned previously:
RU-1810 is straight out from turbo, not angled, and 7" long.
RU-1830 is angled 10* from turbo, and 7" long.
RU-1390 is angled 20* from turbo, and 7" long.
The filter I wanted to get was RU1760, which is 5" long and angled 20* and Round instead of Oval. But Summit was out of stock so I went with the 6" long RU-1770. Summit P/N: KNN-RU-1770, $30.69. Well it worked out really good, but it's a little too long that it barely rests on the top of the intercooler. No big deal, and I get an extra inch of filtration surface anyways. Here's the photos!
Here's what you get for your $30.69:
(http://www.nconnect.net/~tookycat/tgp/kn_filter1.jpg)
Here it is, installed:
(http://www.nconnect.net/~tookycat/tgp/kn_filter2.jpg)
Here is a top-view photo with brightness intensified so you can see the clearance touching the top of the intercooler:
(http://www.nconnect.net/~tookycat/tgp/kn_filter3.jpg)
Finally, I also needed a Breather Vilter for the crankcase vent on the front valve cover. TGP Forum members suggested K&N #62-1010 with black rubber endcap which is what I wanted. It cost $21.39 from Summit with Summit P/N: KNN-62-1010. Here's a photo:
(http://www.nconnect.net/~tookycat/tgp/kn_breather.jpg)
And here it is installed on my car. I got a little overzealous with the K&N red filter oil so it's more of a maroon color than the red, whoops :roll: :oops:
(http://www.nconnect.net/~tookycat/tgp/plug_wires1.jpg)
Honestly I think any of the K&N filters suggested will work just fine. It really increased the fun factor of my TGP by 100%! With the long stock airbox setup I was hard pressed to hear the turbo whatsoever. With the cone filter it is enough to make a crowd of ricers turn their necks! And it makes a really funny flutter noise when you let off the boost quickly. My boost seems to spool easier and the boost also seems to go higher on top end (?). It might all be in my head, I don't have any hard data to compare, but the fun factor makes it worth it alone.
:D :D :D I LOVE IT! Excellent writeup and photos to boot ! ABOSLUTELY GREAT! Nice feedback on something POSITIVE! WAY TO GO! :D :D :D
Opps did i sound a little over excited? I AM! GREAT! WO HOOO!
Chris
cool, I was having a hard enough time making myself wait until i had driven my tgp for a-while before i got a filter and you do this to me... J/K
By the way i had heard that turbo's gasp for air at high speeds, not exactly sure why, so since it allows more air in period, at low speeds you have more than you can use but maybe at high speeds it can't get enough. An expert would know.
:D Nice job, one thing I noticed is you Xover pipe is bad... :shock: but
if you look closely at your STOCK crossover pipe, you will notice the shield
is more rusty and darker where it bulges over the flex
joint..........CRACKS!!!! That is why the pipe shield does this changing
color and rusting there, it is because of the common cracks all OEM pipes
have.
Here is inf on the pipe...
$425 for the pipe, that is less than 1/3 GMs pipe that always fails. Jeff M
Premium Pipe comes with 2 year warranty. Pipe also comes with spare
high-temp stainless steel turbo nuts and bolts and the "O-Ring" to replace
the leak prone one in the Distributor Gear housing, that will never be so
easy to get to as when the pipe is out.
$40 for GM o2 sensor, $65 retail but discounted for TGP owners. The GM unit
is the only one tests have proven is proper for the TGP. One is needed as
the cracked pipe has caused your original o2 to become fouled.
$100 pipe core charge, I must get back the old crossover pipe from your TGP,
reuse the box (that is what it is for!!), simply lift up on the address
label pocket and flip over the paper to have Jeff M's address already typed
and ready to go to the shipper of your choice. Cost to ship Jeff M pipe to
you is taken out of the core funds, then the remaining returned to you soon
as your pipe is returned to him, and that needs to happen soon after your
original pipes is off.
TOTAL $565
Sounds like a bargain...I am glad Waskie did his before I bought it though... 8)
Looks like you have to remove the filter everytime you want to open the coolant cap. Cool non the less :)
Update 2-27-03. The newer RU1390s have a shorter neck so trimming is not needed (already done?) to get these to clear better! Jeff M
It is nice to see such time taken to reply, and with such successful effort made. Hope you don?t mind if I add a little help in fitment as I noticed you mentioned a little intercooler contact. In testing and using the RU1810 and 1390 before, I found both could benefit from a small snipping off of some of the length of the rubber neck/collar, the part of the air filter that clamps onto the turbo?s inlet, and it looks like the K&N you used has a nice long rubber neck to whack on, make a nice straight clean cut and you will not ever notice your work or find the clamping any less secure (meaning both the modified 1810 and 1390 worked and stayed put).
Anyways, thanks again for the great details, I am sure it will make a lot of those wanting to know the details breath easier now.
Jeff M
I installed the ru1390. It's a good fit, but you need to angle it straight up toward the hood. I angled mine sideways and when the engine torqued over under power it partially crushed it a little. I am very happy with how quick the turbo spools up now. It wouldn't hardly spin a tire b4 and now it sure can, and this is over what I thought was a decent homemade cold air system with 3 triple stacked 4" paper filters inside a plastic round housing.
*Update* My filter recently somehow got shredded on the rubber ends after a v-short time. I had trimmed off some of the excess rubber b4 but I wouln't recommend doing this because I think this is what weakened the rubber along with the heat the turbo creates. I cannot even clamp it back on the turbo now.
Quote from: idbeast:D Nice job, one thing I noticed is you Xover pipe is bad... :shock: but
if you look closely at your STOCK crossover pipe, you will notice the shield
is more rusty and darker where it bulges over the flex
joint..........CRACKS!!!! That is why the pipe shield does this changing
color and rusting there, it is because of the common cracks all OEM pipes
have.
Jim, or Jeff,
Does that mean mine is still good because my sheild is still silverish in color? if so thats cool. but it means I''ll have to send it to Jeff next spring...
Or Jeff would it be better to wait untill there is a Crack or signs of a Crack??
Alright, quit talking pipe info in a "Sticky Post" on air filters :lol: or course every single little word spoken in this entire forum will last until someone wipes it all out, or edits for months on end, I mean multiply how much talk has occured in the short time this forum has been up and just imagine it in a year or two from now!!, then consider when someone comes here to check for a previous answer on a topic regarding (insert anything you want here) he/she will look :crazyeyes: and look for an overview/bottom line and give up quickly (just like the old board) and just ask us all over again, "I want to install a TGP setup in my......." Eeegads what fun that will be :biggrin:
As for your pipe, I have gotten pipes as new as 3 months old (one at 6 months) that looked too nice to hack up, and had 3/4 inch cracks/leaks already strated, it does not take much to allow air to follow the vacuum/scavanged area behind an exhaust pulse :scatter:
Jeff M
Will the RX-3800 K&N filter fit onto the turbo? Here's the dimensions from the website.
Mounting flange inside diameter inch: 2 7/16
Mounting flange inside diameter mm-62
Filter base diameter inch:4 1/2
Filter base diameter mm:114
Filter top diameter inch:4
Filter top diameter mm:102
Filter length inch:6 1/8
Filter length mm:115
Flange length inch:3
Flange length mm:76
Angled: 20*
I compared it to the dimensions of the filter you used, the RU-1770
Mounting flange inside diameter inch: 2 7/16
Mounting flange inside diameter mm-62
Filter diameter inch:3 3/4
Filter diameter mm:95
Filter length inch:6
Filter length mm:152
Flange length inch:2
Flange length mm:51
Angled: 20*
Hey guys... Ok I'm still new to the whole TGP scene but wouldn't the K&N that fits into the stock airbox do the same thing as those big cones you guys are buying?
im just curious.
I'm pretty sure they don't make a replacement for stock. I've tried finding one with no luck.
Well, it will filter air.
But it won't reduce the huge restriction the sotck airbox/tubing makes. You could run with no air filter in your stock box (not suggested), then put a K&N cone filter on, and be able to tell a difference. Just the increase in noise says alot. Best $40 you'll ever spend on these cars...
Jason
sounds cool... i know when i had my moms "grand prix le" they had a k&n replacement filter for stock but i can see there are sublte differances between the 2 boxes. is there a sensor on the stock air box like my old grand prix?
Your talking about the IAT sensor. On the TGP it's in the passengers side of the plenum instaed of the airbox.
not too bad... see when i do get my tgp im going to put in a decent sound system so i intend on taking out the battery cutting a hole down into the wheel well. then make a pipe or new airbox that will draw cold air from the wheel well. nice in theory... lets see how it will work practically lol
oh yeah just in case you were wondering im going to run the battery cables from the engine bay to the trunk where i am going to have 2 yellow top batteries
Cold air good for turbo. Hot air bad. Should work good.
Found some cheaper prices on these filters..
www.ajusa.com
I just wanted to make an update that I have ordered the RU-1760 K&N from Autozone today. This filter is mentioned in the original post and from the looks of the pics that are there with longer filter(RU-1770) is looks as though the shorter RU-1760 filter would fit perfect. I got the filter for $25.99($27.55 w/ 6% PA sales tax). It will also be here tomorrow, and I'll take a couple pics to add to this thread.
I'm gonna go with the RU-1390 Filter...see how that works out. It has a 20* neck so it should clear the coolant bottle. :)
Yeah, I suggest that. I bought it and it fits nice. Jeff said they had shorter necks as of some date in Jan. Mine comes right up over the intercooler. Just right.
I make intakes as well. if you are moving your battery i can build a sweet looking cold air intake for the TGP. also it would be easy acess to do a front mount intercooler.
let me know if your interested. i have a red powder coat that will match the red tgp's perfectly and gloss black that looks awsome.
here is my intake before it was powdercoated:
(http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/264e494c/bc/1990+Turbo+Grand+Prix/__hr_/chrmcover2.jpg?bck.7x_AWxYOb5Pz)
RedZ
I must say just the sound from putting one of these on is worth the money alone. I did it to mine and now you can definitely hear the turbo. Also when you let off the boost real quick it sound like a supersequential blow off valve. I don't know how many heads I've turned from this.
I ordered ru-1760 off the website www.ajusa.com and it finally came. It is the PERFECT size for this car I think. Fits perfect and doesnt go over the intercooler at all. The sound is great that it makes and the car picks up alot faster!
Recieved the Ru-1770 I ordered from 4filters.com. I used Redturbo's idea and cut about 1/2" of the stock rubber pipe to place over the neck on the turbo so the filter doesn't try to fall off. I also had to trim about 1/4" off of the neck of the filter to keep it from hitting the intercooler.
My previous setup, Stock rubber pipe to K&N down behind the intercooler was quiet compared to this.. It's damn LOUD now! You sure know there's a turbo under the hood now, and it has absolutly NO problem breaking them loose in second now. For $30 I'm happy.. :D
Edit: Just finally got a chance to run the car some.. and DAMN does it move. I went through the gears faster than I ever have before!
Not to bring up an ancient thread, but I had another question pertaining to the filters. If an RU-1760 is 5", and the 1770 is 6", does this automatically mean the 1780 is the same exact dimension in every category as the above mentioned filters except 7" long?
$40 for GM o2 sensor, $65 retail but discounted for TGP owners. The GM unit
is the only one tests have proven is proper for the TGP. One is needed as
the cracked pipe has caused your original o2 to become fouled.
Ummmm
Last I heard was that AC/Delco and Bosch O2 sensors are Both made by... BOSCH..... So why is it that Jeff M says the Ac/Delco's would be better if the parts are coming from the SAME manufactuer???
Jeff? Chris? Anything on this?
One more thing.. Has some have said.... Cold air is always better for a TURBO.If that's true... Why the heck is everybody rushing out to purchase K&N filters that do Nothing but PULL HOT engine bay air into the turbo?? :shock:
Autozone has bosh for the cheapest, $20 around here.
Hot air is better than NO air, when the stock piping gets crushed (Well, imploded) from the turbo outflowing the air hose. And it IS better than the stock routing. Maybe not ideal, but better.
Quote from: Gearhead43One more thing.. Has some have said.... Cold air is always better for a TURBO.If that's true... Why the heck is everybody rushing out to purchase K&N filters that do Nothing but PULL HOT engine bay air into the turbo?? :shock:
If you have the a/c condensor fins removed you won't get all hot air.
I made my own half-assed CAI. I used the stock hose that connected the airbox to the turbo and attached a K&N to the end of it using an piece of exhaust pipe 4" long. Connected it to the turbo and let the hose and filter hang down to the bottom of the car behind the intercooler. Made a difference to my ass dyno.
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2056000-2056999/2056262_28_full.jpg)this is my CAI and I am going to be welding a flange on it for crankcase gas recirc. my question is 1. how close to the turbo inlet should it be? My guess is somewhere near the filter. 2. Is there some type of in line filter that would catch the gunk before it goes through the compressor?
Quote from: GangstGPthis is my CAI and I am going to be welding a flange on it for crankcase gas recirc. my question is 1. how close to the turbo inlet should it be? My guess is somewhere near the filter. 2. Is there some type of in line filter that would catch the gunk before it goes through the compressor?
I don't think it matters where you place the tube for crankcase ventilation on your CAI tubing. A fuel filter for a carb'd motor(one of those small version clear inline filters) would probably catch most of the oily mist/gunk, not sure how long it would take to dirty those up before you would need to change it though.
http://www.buggiesunlimited.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/2153.jpg
yea I am basically looking for something I can take out and clean/degrease or replace. I had a Ford van that had something like that in the air filter box made of a small paper filter. It picked up quite a bit of crap in a few months that would normally clog the filter.
I got my RU-1390, and it comes in contact with the intercooler, and is starting to crush it, lol, new mounts time, ill get pics i guess... but it sounds AWSOME! Its the coolest sound iv ever herd a car make, lol, first turbo car iv been in as you can tell
alright, Done.....
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2056000-2056999/2056262_100_full.jpg)(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2056000-2056999/2056262_101_full.jpg)
Nice, heres my RU-1390
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Prospeeder/100_1578.jpg)
GangstGP...how is your catch can designed for the valve cover breather? :icon_cool:
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2056000-2056999/2056262_102_full.jpg)
Here is a closer look, Kenny, I just took 2 breathers and clamped on some silicone around them. others are welcome to use my little invention :icon_mrgreen: or my dogbone washer trick. :laugh:
kinda looks like the clamp is about to fall off :icon_razz:
i'm just gonna stick with the push in K&N 62-1010 breather filter. easy to clean anyway and keeps the engine bay from looking cluttered.
You guys ever hear of a catch tank? :laugh: :laugh:
Whats that? I asked a while back what to use but nobody knew :iamwithstupid: I dont want to look cluttered either!
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2056000-2056999/2056262_103_full.jpg)
This looks like it would fall off? why, the clapms loose? :laugh: it still works, :icon_razz:I was just looking at that. turbosedan? do you even know why a push in breather is bad for your motor? Its because the PCV tube draws the contaminents out of the motor and recirculates through the combustion process. without it the vapor turns to goo and drains back into the oil, or with a breather right there it will just get all oily and splatter out on the outside of the valve cover and make a mess. I had to constantly wipe off the splattered oil off my motor and change the oil after 2500 miles because it was black. and using race oil, thats expensive.
Ya i was gonna go with the push in filter like i have seen on here....but after some reading i decided not to for the reasons our friend above mentioned.
here is a pic of mine
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/Invasion1/Turbo%20Cutlass/CSAugust9.jpg)
Stock tube to an extension hose to a right angle going into the K&N where the bad vapors are sucked in to be re-used.
:icon_wink:
and lets keep it friendly guys
do we have an 'ignore' feature here?
*edit by TGPilot*...just trying to keep the peace. ;) The ignore function is being worked on by Luke and will be in place shortly.
Quote from: mfewtrail on January 26, 2006, 07:22:06 PM
A fuel filter for a carb'd motor(one of those small version clear inline filters) would probably catch most of the oily mist/gunk, not sure how long it would take to dirty those up before you would need to change it though.
http://www.buggiesunlimited.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/2153.jpg
I found this, it has a removable element that you can clean or replace, Plus It looks cool :icon_lol:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=RUS%2D645120&N=4294925239+4294839051+4294852562+115&autoview=sku
What do you guys think?
Mitch
get a 1/2 " barb and youre in business
Cool thanks for the filter info I also added this outer wear K&N RU-1460PK (it fits filter RU-1760 ) because the filter I got with my chip got so dirty it was uncleanable. So I figured an outer wear like I have for my four wheeler would help keep my cars filter clean.
Invasion1, I like the setup in your car. What style K&N are you using and how did you hook it up to the valve cover?
Thanks.
David
Ya i liked mine also :icon_mrgreen: never caught on though ;)
RX-4960 K&N X-Stream
you have to trim the flange to shorten it enough to fit on the turbo and it will leave about 1/2 inch gap and with GOOD engine mounts (dogbones thats more than enough and i have a 5-speed ;) )
as far as the valve cover to turbo mod goes use the stock tube you have now and buy a hose that can fit snug and then in the HELP section at autozone or advance auto they have 90* "T"'s that you can add on that hose extension.
after you find one of those "T"'s select a drill bit slightly smaller and drill a hole in the flange far enough away from the compressor so its not in the way.
pop that 90* in that hole and you have a functional escape for the gas from the engine.
hope that helps you get a better idea
if not feel free to ask more questions
cheers
Dave
Also the pic of the filter is the smaller version of the part # i listed, K&N didn't list the larger version's pic for some reason.
the actual filter is 2 inches longer i believe than the stumpy one in the pic.
EXACT same style though just more filter surface!!
Dave. Do you mean that you drilled a hole in the flange for the turbo? :icon_eek: You mentioned dog bones and standard transmission. I have new poly dog bones and an automatic. I also see that you have moved the coolant overflow. Is this neccesary for the setup to fit? I have other questions and comments about your engine compartment but we'll work on the K&N first. :icon_lol: Thanks Dave.
David
No No
Drill a hole in the filters flange for the 90* fitting, it will pop in if you make the hole smaller than the fitting so its air tight.
If you have the poly dogbones you don't have to worry about engine movement at all so if you cut the filiter flange and have 1/2 inch between the filter and Intercooler your fine like mine is.
I never used the TGP specific coolant bottle, mainly because its poor location, the one i have on mine is the stock Cutlass coolant bottle and a few TGP guys have moved to that and removed the oddly placed one in there TGP's.
I can't say if it will effect this setup as i never used it in my car so i dunno
Thanks Dave. I'm gonna order the parts tommorrow. If you get a chance could you post a better pic? Maybe from above. I wonder why this setup isn't more popular here?
David
its all apart now with my engine removal so i can't get a pic all assembled from a different angle......sorry
Maybe the filter was to $$
I dunno why it never got popular
Sorry Dave. Forgot about the "incident". :icon_cry: . Now I'm thinkin should I really be following your instructions. :icon_lol: . Just kiddin. Ordered the filter last night. $55.25. Good luck with your project.
David
Ouch......
I doubt the air filter had anything to do with this Incident.
lol
Quote from: Invasion1 on November 23, 2006, 10:33:22 PM
Maybe the filter was to $$
I dunno why it never got popular
Probably because almost everyone already had the regular ol' K&N's mentioned at the very beginning of the thread. :icon_mrgreen:
I think I did a write up about the overflow bottle relocation, but I cant find it. Anyone know where it is?
I will probly be borrowing your idea Invasion, my RU1390 is falling apart at the inlet mouth. But first I have to get some new motor mounts/dog bones, followed by a new exhaust (since my cat is clogged). I will be starting a new thread since I have exhaust questions..
I Pm'ed Dave about his filter a while ago, and i now have it on mine. I really like it. I did something a little different for crankcase breathing i'll take a pic this weekend.
BTW, you WILL need to move the coolant overflow tank. I moved mine to a pretty cool spot using a windshield washer tank from a 90 GP SE. Ill take a pic of that as well.
-Mitch
Ya Mitch were in the minority lol
I wouldnt say that. I have had mine moved since I rebuilt mine. I couldnt stand the location, and it blocked airflow to the K&N, and how hard it was to tell if it even had fluid in it, or to fill it.
Quote from: Dark Ride on November 27, 2006, 10:37:03 PM
I Pm'ed Dave about his filter a while ago, and i now have it on mine. I really like it. I did something a little different for crankcase breathing i'll take a pic this weekend.
BTW, you WILL need to move the coolant overflow tank. I moved mine to a pretty cool spot using a windshield washer tank from a 90 GP SE. Ill take a pic of that as well.
-Mitch
YES!! Post pics please!
O.K. I picked up an overflow tank. Interested in seeing pics of the breather system and washer tank set-up Dark Ride.
My K&N should arrive by the end of the week. So by then I should have a plan of attack.
By the way. What should we use to get the overfill tank nice and clean inside and out? Thanks guys.
K&N arrived today. :icon_biggrin: Probably tackle this tommorrow. Just need to pick up some hose and that 90* fitting.
I'm really glad I waited to do this mod. Did a lot of researching here.
I'm psyched! Got a chip coming soon too! :icon_twisted:
Hey Dark Ride, got any pics of your setup? J/W- sounds sweet :icon_cool:
hey guys, I apologize for not getting pics up, the last couple of weeks have been a living hell. I do have the pics taken i just have to upload them. i cant get my camera phone to connect right now.
TGP Nick I sent u a PM regarding the seats.
I promise to have them up by friday.
Mitch
Great! Can't wait to see the pics!
O/T: Don't worry about the seats dude- I'm not in any kind of hurry- if u wanna bring em to the meet that would work fine. Like I said, no hurry. ;) /end hijack
Installed my K&N today. Thanks Dave for your info. It worked out great. I re-located the coolant overflow and also did the AC fin mod. Makes some strange noise under the hood now. Sounds like a vacuum cleaner! :icon_lol:
Quote from: The Master on December 18, 2006, 06:23:53 PM
Sounds like a vacuum cleaner! :icon_lol:
:laugh: that's great!
Glad i could provide some kinda help David!
you will be suckin the air in now like never before!!
good work
Bringing this thread back from the dead! Dark Ride- have you taken pics of your washer tank/coolant bottle setup? Post them up please! ;)
Quote from: TGP Nick on August 01, 2007, 11:56:24 AM
Bringing this thread back from the dead! Dark Ride- have you taken pics of your washer tank/coolant bottle setup? Post them up please! ;)
I did actually, but then the camera phone I took them with died and I never took them again, But I can, I'll see the TGP tommorow.
O/T- Mitch, did you find the center brake light cover?
I know where it is, its just that its 50 miles away
Pictures of my Air Filter attached to my turbo
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u87/darkride2007/08-06-07_2001.jpg)
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u87/darkride2007/08-06-07_2002.jpg)
Rerouting of Heater Hoses
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u87/darkride2007/08-06-07_2005.jpg)
I had to remove the parking and turn signal relay box. I actually cut the box apart keeping the relays intact and tucking them down in the corner below the ECM.
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u87/darkride2007/08-06-07_2006.jpg)
The mounting of the new coolant bottle, I used a windshield washer fluid bottle from a 90 Grand Prix. It mounts to the plastic cover and tucks very neatly into the space between the ECM and the Engine fuse box.
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u87/darkride2007/08-06-07_2007.jpg)
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u87/darkride2007/08-06-07_2008.jpg)
I like it! :thumb:
I am really suprised no one has used my coolant bottle relocation...
Quote from: pontiac6ksteawd on August 08, 2007, 04:42:40 PM
I am really suprised no one has used my coolant bottle relocation...
Pic?
like mine?
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c264/mshantz83/MEET%20May%2020/meetTGP1.jpg)
I like mine better :icon_razz:
Yours looks good, but I don't wanna start cutting stuff up. This tank just bolts on.
Quote from: 93luminaz34 on August 09, 2007, 02:31:41 PM
Yours looks good, but I don't wanna start cutting stuff up. This tank just bolts on.
yours is definetly bigger, and the nice thing about yours is that it takes the place of the cover, and you can always see how much antifreeze you have, I like mine cuz its hidden. I have a tendency of doing things my own way, I'm stubborn like that. My TGP will be one of a kind. :icon_mrgreen:
EDIT: what vehicle had that kind of coolant bottle
Quote from: Dark Ride on August 09, 2007, 09:09:00 PM
EDIT: what vehicle had that kind of coolant bottle
91-93 Grand Prix's have that coolant bottle as stock equipment. The other W-body cars from those years may have that bottle as well, it's been a while since I've seen a 91-93 Cutty, Lumina, etc. engine bay though, so I could be mistaken.
A picture from my '93 SE w/ that coolant bottle...
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y33/mfewtrail/1993%20Grand%20Prix%20SE/IM002296a.jpg)
Of course Matt's brand new bottle looks better than mine with 253,000 miles worth of heat and crap on it that have discolored it. :lol:
Quote from: Dark Ride on August 09, 2007, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: 93luminaz34 on August 09, 2007, 02:31:41 PM
Yours looks good, but I don't wanna start cutting stuff up. This tank just bolts on.
yours is definetly bigger, and the nice thing about yours is that it takes the place of the cover, and you can always see how much antifreeze you have, I like mine cuz its hidden. I have a tendency of doing things my own way, I'm stubborn like that. My TGP will be one of a kind. :icon_mrgreen:
EDIT: what vehicle had that kind of coolant bottle
I can appreciate the fact that you want to be one of a kind. Either way it gets the job done, and is better than stock IMO
Thanks for chiming in with the coolant relocation bottle thing. Thats the same thing I have..
Did you get your idea from me by chance? Just wondering?
Quote from: pontiac6ksteawd on August 10, 2007, 07:25:45 PM
Thanks for chiming in with the coolant relocation bottle thing. Thats the same thing I have..
Did you get your idea from me by chance? Just wondering?
It's quite possible that I did get the idea from you, but I honestly don't remember for sure.
ok you guys are confusing the hell out of me. I'm going down to Autozone which K & N filter do I tell them I need that I can bring home bolt on close the hood and drive and not have to do any modifying also what filter do I need for the valve cover.
Quote from: dhaggan on October 08, 2008, 09:23:01 PM
ok you guys are confusing the hell out of me. I'm going down to Autozone which K & N filter do I tell them I need that I can bring home bolt on close the hood and drive and not have to do any modifying also what filter do I need for the valve cover.
I use the RU-1390, it clamps straight on. Do not tighten your clamp very tight or you'll eventually end up tearing the neck of the filter. It doesn't take much clamping force to keep it in place. Autozone is going to have to order that filter unless you get very lucky. They typically only stock very common filters, and the RU-1390 isnt' extremely common. ;)
Here's mine:
RX-4960 K&N X-Stream. I have a K&N outerwear on there also. The filter is still as clean as the day I put it on there!
You will have to relocate your coolant catch bottle to run this filter.
order it from AJUSA way cheaper
Quote from: Dark Ride on October 09, 2008, 11:15:36 AM
order it from AJUSA way cheaper
Actually, autozones price is within $3 of AJUSA(using my zip code on autozone's website anyways - 30605/Athens, GA...prices vary at AZ depending on location). It looks like AJUSA has gone up in price recently.
Quote from: mfewtrail on October 10, 2008, 04:42:26 AM
Actually, autozones price is within $3 of AJUSA(using my zip code on autozone's website anyways - 30605/Athens, GA...prices vary at AZ depending on location). It looks like AJUSA has gone up in price recently.
that bites, they were the cheapest place to get air filters for a long time
6 and a half years later..................
this thread is STILL fricking going.....
i would have thought that after that much time, and 7 pages of "does ##### part number K&N filter work?....."
you would think people would have figured out just about every filter that fits, and if you get one that doesnt, TAKE IT BACK....lol
they do exchanges......simply try again....... :icon_rolleyes:
Just so I make sure I understand common sense, I would just put the filter onto the turbo directly, right? Do I need to worry about the hole where air used to come from the other side of the engine compartment into the old filter box?
Quote from: Fred931 on December 12, 2010, 12:11:04 PM
Just so I make sure I understand common sense, I would just put the filter onto the turbo directly, right? Do I need to worry about the hole where air used to come from the other side of the engine compartment into the old filter box?
Yes, the filter goes straight on the turbo. For the hose from the valve cover, you have two options. Delete it and install a generic push-in breather or add a fitting to your K&N filter and run a line from the valve cover to the filter.
I've done enough research to say that the breather is out, so what would I do at this point? I already ordered a RU-1390, if knowing that helps.
Quote from: mfewtrail on December 12, 2010, 01:40:06 PM
Yes, the filter goes straight on the turbo. For the hose from the valve cover, you have two options. Delete it and install a generic push-in breather or add a fitting to your K&N filter and run a line from the valve cover to the filter.
You can just get a breather filter and put it on the hole. Simple and cheap solution
http://www.usautoparts.net/catalog/?N=4294967006&Nr=AND%28universal:1%29 (http://www.usautoparts.net/catalog/?N=4294967006&Nr=AND%28universal:1%29)
you have lots of choice
RU-1390 and 62-1010 :icon_exclaim:
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_sYYLg0KdZJ4/TUCx7s-4zOI/AAAAAAAAAkg/a3JwBHLztjs/MVI_0472_0002.jpg)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_sYYLg0KdZJ4/TUCx7s4kigI/AAAAAAAAAkc/cVoBT72OjK4/MVI_0472_0001.jpg)
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_sYYLg0KdZJ4/TUCwmE-RXuI/AAAAAAAAAkU/e0q7NMJTa5M/s640/IMG_0473.JPG)
^ The cone only touches the small hose, it doesn't push hard against it. :willy_nilly: