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Title: Moates AutoProm APU1 [Edited]
Post by: Invasion1 on March 19, 2006, 03:48:24 PM
(http://www.moates.net/images/apu1.jpg)

QuoteProduct Description: Does everything in one package, one USB-based device! USB-powered, so no power supply needed. Chip burning/reading, datalogging, and realtime emulation. Performs ALDL communications at 160/8192 baud, programs AT29C256, 27SF512, and AM29F040 chips. Has 3-channel 0-5v 10-bit A/D provision fpr wideband and other datalogging. Includes AutoProm device, 28-pin 18-inch emulation cable, OBD1-style ALDL cable CABL1, 6-ft USB cable, 1x 29C256 chip, 1x 27SF512 chip, 1x 29F040 chip, and Mark Mansur's "TunerPro RT" Software license. PLEASE READ through product documentation to understand some of the features of this all-in-one, datalogging, realtime emulation tuning, and chip burning hardware. Keep in mind you'll still need a chip adapter and probably a ZIF, so select them from the Adapters and Sockets categories if you don't have them already. Fully compatible with TunerPro RT and TunerCat.

http://www.moates.net/product_info.php?cPath=50&products_id=54

manual

http://www.moates.net/documentation.php?documentation_id=14

Drawbacks

-Powering the unit from the Car's Battery is questionable (not proven possable yet says the manual), it comes with a AC wall plug in but what good is that in a car.

-This unit would have to be mounted in the car with the ribbon cable run through the firewall to the ECM box, where that could have durability issues and function due to RF interference using the 3 foot ribbon.




Title: Re: Moates AutoProm APU1 [Edited]
Post by: Invasion1 on March 19, 2006, 04:37:35 PM
Option 2

ALDU1 USB-to-ALDL Converter
(http://www.moates.net/images/ALDU1_1.jpg)
used with
CABL1 OBD1-Style ALDL Connector (for ALDL connection alone)
(http://www.moates.net/images/CABL1_0.jpg)

And The Moates Ostrich Emulator
(http://www.moates.net/images/ostrich1.jpg)

QuoteProduct Description: This is THE standalone USB emulator. It might be the ONLY one. It will emulate 2732A, 27C128, 27C256, 27C512, and more! Up to 4mbit (29F040) 8-bit emulation. Robust, USB-based realtime EPROM emulation in the palm of your hand! Battery backup lasts 75 years (standard AAA), so you can leave it in the car if you want to. With this device, you can upload an entirely new binary without a hiccup while the car is running. Or, you can change one parameter at a time. Fully compatible with TunerPro RT and TunerCat.
Title: Re: Moates AutoProm APU1 [Edited]
Post by: z284pwr on March 22, 2006, 11:20:55 AM
Very cool indeed :icon_biggrin: Definitely keep updates on how this thing works as compared to what it says it can do. :icon_cool:

One day, maybe, maybe, I'll figure out why someone that would make something like this, for a car, with an AC Wall Plug?!?!?!?!?!?! :icon_confused: :icon_eek: 

I guess if its a must, get an adapter and plug it in? :laugh:
Title: Re: Moates AutoProm APU1 [Edited]
Post by: TGPilot on March 22, 2006, 11:45:28 AM
Quote from: z284pwr on March 22, 2006, 11:20:55 AM
One day, maybe, maybe, I'll figure out why someone that would make something like this, for a car, with an AC Wall Plug?!?!?!?!?!?! :icon_confused: :icon_eek: 

I guess I don't understand your statement/question. You want one with an AC plug-in or you don't? Most of these are USB powered through your laptop or PC.

Title: Re: Moates AutoProm APU1 [Edited]
Post by: z284pwr on March 23, 2006, 11:16:00 AM
Quote from: TGPilot on March 22, 2006, 11:45:28 AM
Quote from: z284pwr on March 22, 2006, 11:20:55 AM
One day, maybe, maybe, I'll figure out why someone that would make something like this, for a car, with an AC Wall Plug?!?!?!?!?!?! :icon_confused: :icon_eek: 

I guess I don't understand your statement/question. You want one with an AC plug-in or you don't? Most of these are USB powered through your laptop or PC.



Oh no no, I was wondering this...
QuoteDrawbacks

-Powering the unit from the Car's Battery is questionable (not proven possable yet says the manual), it comes with a AC wall plug in but what good is that in a car.

I'm trying to figure out why they would do this?  Unless I missed something?
Title: Re: Moates AutoProm APU1 [Edited]
Post by: TGPilot on March 23, 2006, 12:07:28 PM
I see what you are saying now. :icon_eek: Might give Craig a shout and see what the deal is there. Most of the newer chip programmers are USB powered and work real well.

Hmmmm. That is strange. :icon_confused:
Title: Re: Moates AutoProm APU1 [Edited]
Post by: Invasion1 on March 23, 2006, 12:55:53 PM
ya in the documentation it says

"It might work off battery voltage without a problem, but this needs to be tested out."

dosen't sound promising...

im not willing to "test" that after spending $300+ and not be 100% sure.

i think im going the other route now with the Ostrich

Title: Re: Moates AutoProm APU1 [Edited]
Post by: flybynite on March 24, 2006, 06:59:19 AM
The ostrich is the only way to go. :icon_cool:We have used them before and liked it very much.Later
Title: Re: Moates AutoProm APU1 [Edited]
Post by: TurboGTU on March 25, 2006, 03:25:38 AM
Hmm..you need a computer to do anything with it since its USB powerd. Just like my home browed ALDL interface, My Williams programer...I need a computer of some sort to read data and write data. So why would anyone use it on a battery?  :icon_wink:
Unless they mean to keep the emulator alive without a labtop  :icon_question: .

I would likely grab that SOB though. Its real nice compared to the old dinosour EXPENSIVE "VCRs" used by the gray haird foxes.
Title: Re: Moates AutoProm APU1 [Edited]
Post by: tcristea on March 25, 2006, 07:04:39 AM
So why not get an inverter with two AC plugs and you'd be good to go right?