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Title: Checking grounds for stereo
Post by: R Dubya on March 30, 2006, 03:19:34 PM
So my TGP has a buzzing sound coming through the speakers when it's running, and only when its running.  Sitting with key on but engine off no sound.  I am thinking ground but wondered if anyone has an idea on the best place to start looking?
Title: Re: Checking grounds for stereo
Post by: z284pwr on March 30, 2006, 09:14:05 PM
Alternator noise interference.....

Question, is the radio still stock?  I would assume so?  If so, it may be ending its life as a useful radio.  Mine was doing the exact same thing.  Unless its aftermarket?
Title: Re: Checking grounds for stereo
Post by: R Dubya on March 31, 2006, 04:35:24 AM
No it is stock.  I don't know I guess it could be the problem, I was really hoping to avoid replacing the unit, wanted to keep it stock but I guess I will be looking into a replacement as well.

I mean you can hear the turbo spool up through the speakers when the music is low, when it's loud you don't hear so much but it's still there. 
Title: Re: Checking grounds for stereo
Post by: flybynite on March 31, 2006, 08:21:57 AM
The grounding system on a TGP is pretty good but I have found by adding a ground (4-8 gauge)wire from the engine to the body than a ground from the battery to the body will help with all kinds of stuff.A few years ago my TGP had a different code stored in the ecm every week but by adding extra ground wires cured all that and now when I have a trouble code I know its for real and not a bad ground.Later..Adam
Title: Re: Checking grounds for stereo
Post by: Prospeeder on March 31, 2006, 02:11:25 PM
How exactly do you add a ground to the battery cable? Same with the body one, i wanna see if it will solve my dimming problem somewhat. Im not much on experience with electrical stuff
Title: Re: Checking grounds for stereo
Post by: flybynite on March 31, 2006, 03:19:51 PM
Quote from: Prospeeder on March 31, 2006, 02:11:25 PM
How exactly do you add a ground to the battery cable? Same with the body one, i wanna see if it will solve my dimming problem somewhat. Im not much on experience with electrical stuff
I started at the battery,on the negative side I added a 8 gauge wire and ran it to the chassis(sub frame).Then I went from the chassis(same spot) and added another 8 gauge wire and ran it to the engine block.Hope this helps...Later
Title: Re: Checking grounds for stereo
Post by: Prospeeder on March 31, 2006, 05:22:20 PM
how exactly did you add it to the battery/cable tho? Do i just directly add it to the negitive terminal or what
Title: Re: Checking grounds for stereo
Post by: z284pwr on March 31, 2006, 07:18:28 PM
Quote from: Prospeeder on March 31, 2006, 05:22:20 PM
how exactly did you add it to the battery/cable tho? Do i just directly add it to the negitive terminal or what

Yeah, its just making your own battery cables basically, we did it when we changed engines....Its not rocket science :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Checking grounds for stereo
Post by: GangstGP on March 31, 2006, 09:29:43 PM
Quote from: flybynite on March 31, 2006, 03:19:51 PM
Quote from: Prospeeder on March 31, 2006, 02:11:25 PM
How exactly do you add a ground to the battery cable? Same with the body one, i wanna see if it will solve my dimming problem somewhat. Im not much on experience with electrical stuff
I started at the battery,on the negative side I added a 8 gauge wire and ran it to the chassis(sub frame).Then I went from the chassis(same spot) and added another 8 gauge wire and ran it to the engine block.Hope this helps...Later
Its close, but there is 2 studs actually on the block.one goes to the top of the subframe like you say. I did that one first with 8 gauge. then all that did was put more strain on the other one . the other one from the battery turned green from the inside out. that just pissed me off and I put a 2 gauge there.

but you need a 15mm socket to loosen the nut I think, and the other smaller grounds around there can be trimmed up as well and shrink sealed.
Title: Re: Checking grounds for stereo
Post by: Prospeeder on March 31, 2006, 09:35:48 PM
yea the block grounds 15 mm, i had to loosen it and move the cable out of the way to take off my vacuum modulator
Title: Re: Checking grounds for stereo
Post by: GangstGP on March 31, 2006, 10:54:48 PM
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2056000-2056999/2056262_99_full.jpg)heres the stock wire compared to the 2 gauge
Title: Re: Checking grounds for stereo
Post by: R Dubya on April 23, 2006, 07:03:32 PM
not the alternator or grounds, its the stereo.  aftermarket deck doesn't make any sounds so time to replace it.  Oh well, it's probably time to upgrade from a tape deck to a modern compact disc!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Checking grounds for stereo
Post by: z284pwr on April 23, 2006, 09:56:39 PM
Quote from: R Dubya on April 23, 2006, 07:03:32 PM
not the alternator or grounds, its the stereo.  aftermarket deck doesn't make any sounds so time to replace it.  Oh well, it's probably time to upgrade from a tape deck to a modern compact disc!!  :laugh:

Make sure its atleast MP3 ;)

Oh and depending on budget, I would suggest an Flip-out screen DVD or something along those lines.  I'm an Alpine guy, so obviously I'll suggest them.   :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Checking grounds for stereo
Post by: LukeZ34 on April 23, 2006, 10:00:04 PM
I think it was a common problem for the TGP Cassette decks to develop an alternator whine over time. Ours did the same thing, and I know of many others who also had the same problems. The noise did not carry over to our Pioneer deck, and it utilizes the same stock ground that the cassette deck did.
Title: Re: Checking grounds for stereo
Post by: R Dubya on April 24, 2006, 05:25:31 AM
its mp3 wma, xm ready so I am excited.  I will probably hard wire in a the get up for an ipod when it goes it, so I can use my buddies and mine when I eventually get one.

hey at least it ran good, thats whats most important.