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OFF TOPIC => Off Topic => Topic started by: TGPilot on October 08, 2006, 10:47:21 PM

Title: Need Volunteer
Post by: TGPilot on October 08, 2006, 10:47:21 PM
Hey guys,

I am in the process of making a "HOT TUNE" for the TGP/TSTE. I have shown a gain of 45HP and 60ft/lbs of torque over another chip in the TSTE.

I am going to load stock parameters tomorrow and see the increase over stock.

I need someone at or close to sea-level density, WITH a datalogger!, and who is knowledgable with tunes and what to look for with an extreme tune.

This is not for someone with a crappy or loose tranny either! I have an 18,000lbs tranny cooler on the TSTE. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR TRANNY OR MOTOR! That is why I say I need someone with knowledge of what to look for with such a hot tune.

Your car needs to have new or fully functioning sensors, plugs, wires, etc, etc, etc!

PM me if you wish to be a guinee pig. It would be ideal if you had access to a Dyno Dynamics dyno to also do a HP/TQ run on.

Peace!
-Kenny :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: TGPilot on October 09, 2006, 07:58:44 PM
Nine peaks and no volunteers?  :icon_lol: Chickens!

Here is what I am showing for gains without timing changes. This is purely getting ride of the well over 10:1 A/F the stock fuel tables and the other chip has. It is rediculous to have more than 12:1 A/F with 1Bar of boost on these cars.

I will post up the A/F graph tomorrow. I thought I saved it to this disk to show.

If you want to know what a Dyno-Jet, SuperFlow, or Mustang number would be just add 30-35% to either HP or Torque.
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: Invasion1 on October 09, 2006, 08:01:50 PM
lol

QuoteI AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR TRANNY OR MOTOR!

that may be a hard selling point but i understand where your comming from
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: R Dubya on October 10, 2006, 07:41:46 AM
I would offer to help you, but the car is off the road for the winter, I am also running a Crane 2020 cam, and I could datalog but I am not too knowledgeable with it, and I admit I have peeked a couple of times.  Good luck though, I would be more than willing to help in the spring if I still have the car.
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: LukeZ34 on October 10, 2006, 08:45:36 AM
I'd also be willing to help out, but the TGP has become the daily driver again since the GTP spun a bearing.
Once I get that thing back on the road, I'd be willing to do some testing for you. The tranny in the TGP is pretty strong still, so I have confidence in it.
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: TGPilot on October 10, 2006, 06:07:07 PM
Excellent!
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: mfewtrail on October 10, 2006, 11:58:21 PM
Those are impressive gains. What type of boost control are you using and how much boost were you running w/ your chip Kenny? ;)
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: TGPilot on October 11, 2006, 07:48:23 AM
Using the stock wastegate control circuit. It was running 12-12.5 psi.

Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: TGPilot on October 11, 2006, 10:56:13 PM
Well the car turned a 14.698 @ 93.19 tonight with  2.2 60'.

I got 5 runs in and the best run was after a long cool down. The rest were hot laps at 15.009 @ 92.70, 15.272 @ 92.50 and the slowest "good run" was a 15.546 @ 88.92. That slow run was my dumbassedness leaving it in 1st and getting it to second after damn near blowing the motor from overrev! :icon_redface: The other run was terrible due to traction (high psi in the tires) and getting it dialed in for the night.

No knock at all with 3.5 gallons of 100 proof mixed with probably 2 gallons of 91 pump gas.

Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: twinturbosedan on October 11, 2006, 11:35:15 PM
awesome Kenny!  the TSTE is officially faster than the 5-speed TGP then? :icon_exclaim:
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: mfewtrail on October 12, 2006, 03:57:35 AM
Was that at Bandimere Kenny? If so, your TSTE is moving! ;)

Just going off altitude corrections alone, that best run would equate to a 13.62 @ 100.49mph.

I did some rough calculations guestimating the times of your run(I found that the event you went to is open from 4-9pm, then looked up weather conditions for the past 24hrs there) and correcting for weather + altitude and ended up with about a 13.2-13.3 @ 102mph, :icon_eek:

EDIT: revamped my calcuations slightly(figured them out for exactly 5860ft as Bandimere is stated to be.  Use .926625 x ET for your corrections there Kenny, and 1.07835 x trap speed. I figured up those #'s based on the NHRA "stock" correction factors, they only list 100' intervals so I had to tweak their numbers slightly).
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: GPChief on October 12, 2006, 07:53:26 AM
looking at old records you knocked 1.3 sec of my best time in that car (it was a 15.9) with just chip tuning.
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: TGPilot on October 12, 2006, 08:32:46 AM
Yupper that was at Banidmere. :icon_mrgreen:

So 15.9 was the best Tom? I looked for the old slips you said might be in the car or the folder you gave me when I bought the car and didn't see anything. Not bad for a three hours of chip tweaking eh?  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: GPChief on October 12, 2006, 10:03:47 AM
Must get motor in Black car, must get motor in black car, must get motor in black car.....I know this guy who can tune pretty good :worshippy: :worshippy: :worshippy:
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: GOT2B GM on October 12, 2006, 02:21:39 PM
.....eagerly awaiting Hot Tune chips to be sold......
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: TGPilot on October 12, 2006, 07:17:10 PM
Here are the A/F graphs....enjoy! ;)

(http://www.kazmotorsports.com/kenny/DYNO.GIF)
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: LukeZ34 on October 12, 2006, 10:47:42 PM
Actually.. I think we'd be intrested in testing one for you. Jess was up to it, so I'll give you a call this weekend..
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: TGPilot on October 13, 2006, 08:02:08 AM
Sounds good Luke. PM'd you my new cell #.
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: twinturbosedan on November 25, 2006, 12:20:56 AM
damn i hope someone can take you up on this!  i went from another "performance chip" to a "mild" KAZ chip and gained 28whp & 30wtq....and that was with a boost leak i didn't find out about until the next day!  of course, my car is a 5-speed so it's not really comparable to what Kenny is requesting.  not to mention i don't have a datalogger and i'm at 4500ft.

c'mon someone try it!
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: TGPilot on November 25, 2006, 08:01:03 AM
I will be getting with Luke sometime this week. Now that I have the exhaust evac system hooked up in the shop I do not have to tune with a headache on colder days. ;)
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: 01AudiS4 on March 10, 2007, 06:05:24 PM
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I am looking to chip my TGP and was pointed in this direction from the w-body boards. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: TGPilot on March 12, 2007, 12:32:26 PM
I can get you a chip for your car.

It is easiest if you contact me via telephone at 719-635-2167.

Thanks,
-Kenny
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: pontiac6ksteawd on March 12, 2007, 12:59:55 PM
You might be hearing from me. I am wanting to lay some good numbers down this week end at the track..
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: TGPilot on March 13, 2007, 01:07:47 PM
You want the HOT tune? Can your tranny handle it?
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: pontiac6ksteawd on March 13, 2007, 04:07:46 PM
Me personally, I dont care if it can or not. I have a buddy that is willing to build me, what he calls, "a proper FWD tranny". But until then, I am just going to keep hammering away on the stock one.. Probly going to pass for now. Still have a small flat spot on acceleration that I am trying to track down.
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: R Dubya on March 13, 2007, 07:49:37 PM
something fuel related I would bet.. maybe a shatty injector or something.. I know mine are good and I have a flat spot as well, but I know its because of the cam and the chip I am running.  Hopefully this spring I will be able to afford a remedy.. or the next owner can do it.

Kenny you still need a gopher??   :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: TGPilot on March 14, 2007, 02:06:06 PM
Ryan,

Do you have a WB 02 sensor on your car with datalogging?

Let me know,
-Kenny
Title: Re: Need Volunteer
Post by: R Dubya on March 14, 2007, 07:28:00 PM
No, but I can, and you should be aware that my cam is not stock.  Everything else save the injectors is as well.  I can datalog, I have the other software, I can't recall the name, but I am willing to use TunerPro if thats what you need.  If you want take this to PM.  My trans is capable.   ;)