What do you guys think about these tires?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?sidewall=Blackwall&tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+GT-HR&partnum=45HR6GTHR&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes&place=25
They're not "Z" rated. Is this a huge deal?
David
you going to use them year round? They look nice, I was always partial to the BF Goodrich T/A's( I think thats what they are). They looked mean, and at 245/50 R16 they looked wide (actually were wider)r and better than any other "bargain" tire than I've ever seen on another TGP (IMO of course).
No traction at all. I ruined a pair by running 20# at the strip. Cracked the heck out of the side wall. If you keep them aired up should be a good tire.
Jud
Kelly UHP 245/50ZR16s are cheaper. actually, same price about. :icon_confused:
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2056000-2056999/2056262_139_full.jpg)
I have the GT-HRs in 235/55/16. Of course, I don't have a turbo, so they are fine for me. Traction is good, wet traction is good, too. Wear rate is also good. I really like mine. Had them for over two years now.
I do not think I would put anything less than a "V" rated tire on a TGP that you want to have good turning ability. An "H" rated tire on a TGP would feel like driving a 1976 Lincoln Town Car with the ass end sway and lack of steering input.
That is just my opinion and personal experience speaking... :icon_cool:
I have put on kelly H rated before just for that purpose of lasting 2-3 years instead of 1-2 years. was well worth it financially as it was for daily driving purposes. the ZR feel so much better though. I threw the H rated on my backup ride for now until I get some Z rated low-pro tires. those are for if I ever actually get a chance to travel up north a few towns to woodburn dragstrip.
I am a big fan of the Continental Extreme Contact tires. I just put a set on the TSTE today and WOW waht a difference over the other tires. I have them on the TGP as well and felt a large difference in overall handling over the GoodYear Eagle HP that were on there before.
Just my preference...everyone has their own. ;)
Quote from: TGPilot on November 18, 2006, 08:07:24 PM
I am a big fan of the Continental Extreme Contact tires. I just put a set on the TSTE today and WOW waht a difference over the other tires. I have them on the TGP as well and felt a large difference in overall handling over the GoodYear Eagle HP that were on there before.
Just my preference...everyone has their own. ;)
conti's are sick.
Since this kinda turned into a what tires do you have/support thread......
If thats cool with THE MASTER :icon_confused:
I will add (http://www.arcticchat.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/my2cents.gif)
Toyo Proxes 4
(http://www.1010tire.com/images/tires/Toyo/toyo_proxes4_lg.jpg)
:laugh: those are sweet!!!!!
you know why, cuz I saw them on Tokyo Drift. gotta be the best. :icon_razz:
what are you a closet ricer???
everything you mention these days is linked to that :icon_rolleyes:
I buy what i find works and im a pretty fussy guy about brands and specific parts.
Made in the USA doesn't mean that much today im afraid....
no longer a motto for quality.....just a motto for the closed minded these days.
my 2 cents now....
supporting mickey thompsons 255-45 16 ET street (only 2) but damn dry traction will be sweet ( well better not sweet- you cant stop the tires from spinning :icon_twisted
Thanks for all the great replys. I still haven't made up my mind, but will be purchasing tires within a few days.
I probably should get "ZR" rated tires huh? :icon_confused:
The car will see some winter. (New Hampshire). If I get "ZR" tires, these are what I'll get :
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=g-Force+Sport&partnum=45WR6GFSP&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes&place=0
Would you drive in the winter with those tires every now and again. I've also got a road trip to Florida in February. :icon_cool:
So, I guess what this comes down to is either the Goodyears or the BF Goodrichs.
Final answer?
Thank you everybody for chiming in. Great discussion. I have made my decision. These are the tires I have purchased:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200047694104&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=010
You helped me to think outside the Goodyear/BF Goodrich "box". These are the tires that the local NTB recommended in the first place.
Now it's time to start pondering other items of interest. Thanks guys!
David
dam you saved some $ but falken?/??????
:puke:
What is wrong with Falken? We use those on the Pikes Peak Hill Climb cars and they work great.
Nice tire choice David :icon_cool:
Im sure you will be happy with them
I don't know much about Falken tires. I used "search" and saw that a couple people had used them and liked them. Also they recommended them at NTB.
They are Z rated. Which is a step above my original choice (title).
I think I got a good deal. I'll let you know when they are installed next week.
David
Yokohama Avids FTW That's what I have on my TGP. :icon_cool:
(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j195/blackswift99/MyTGP002-1.jpg)
i just bought a set of 245/50-16 Kumho ECSTA 711s from tirerack.com last night. yeah, they are just an HR-speed rated tire. last night i found a split on the sidewall of one of my rear tires so i figured i'd better just buy a set of new tires before my long trip east this week. these tires were only $50/each because tirerack.com currently has them on closeout special. the total with shipping came to $255. i was really tempted to buy a set of 235/55 BFGoodrich Traction TAs (T-rated) through discounttiredirect.com but they weren't really the size i wanted anyway and they were $100 more altogether. considering i'm on such a tight budget and need tires this week i just went with the ECSTA 711s. for the price they can't be beat IMHO.
(http://www.1010tire.com/images/tires/Kumho/kumho_ecsta_711_lg.jpg)
i have direct experience with these tires (albeit on my brother's Turbo Dodges) and although the treadlife does suck and they obviously suck in snow/ice, dry traction and handling are GREAT. besides, i'm spending the winter in Virginia and not Wyoming so it's not like i'm going to be drivign in alot of wintery conditions anyway.
i was considering the Falken Ziex 512s, but sl3196 has them on his GTP and said the treadlife sucks bad.
these ECSTA 711s are just going to be temporary anyway. i'd like to go with Continental Extreme Contact tires next year sometime. both TGPilot and timg have them on their cars and they seem to like them alot.
Quote from: The Master on November 22, 2006, 10:06:43 PM
I don't know much about Falken tires. I used "search" and saw that a couple people had used them and liked them. Also they recommended them at NTB.
They are Z rated. Which is a step above my original choice (title).
I think I got a good deal. I'll let you know when they are installed next week.
David
I wont buy falcon or yokes cuz thats what Les Schwab has and they go around tellin everyone and they mamma that NO tires are made in USA anymore. BS I heard that at 2 or 3 different tire shops and they swear up and down you have to have your tires shipped in from half way across the world cause thats your only option, BS!!!!!!!!! my quote from les scwab said $550 for their cheapest z rated proxes, went down to tire factory and the fierce uhp/kelly z rated made in USA tires were only $500 mounted and balanced. better AND cheaper. plus the tread handles AWESOME in the rain which we got tons of. owned three sets of kellys and never had one crack anywhere on the tire. threw away some hardly used z rated yokohamas the other day as they were cracking so bad they wouldnt even hold air.
My Yokes (pictured above) only cost $325! :dunno:
Who the hell is Les Schwab??
My Toyo's were $100 each US shipped to Ontario from North Carolina on ebay brand new in boxes
245/45/17
Quote from: TGP Nick on November 29, 2006, 04:29:16 PM
My Yokes (pictured above) only cost $325! :dunno:
are they 245/50 ZR16s or 245/50 R 16s? because if they have an "R" in the sequence instead of "ZR" then they are not high performance tires, they are just good for everyday driving and longevity.
$100 a tire is what I paid too and its $25 a tire for mount and balance. basically $500.
Invasion, that would be a good deal on some 17s IF they were Z rated. same as I paid but bigger rim size... those always cost more.
Quote from: GangstGP on November 30, 2006, 11:54:58 AM$25 a tire for mount and balance.
ouch, i'm paying $12.50/wheel here for mount & balance. with tax it's about $54 for all four.
yes the big deal with the Z rated eh :laugh:
we really have a problem with taking these cars to those kinds of speeds :icon_rolleyes:
Installed i payed $10 each from a local shop i trusted not to mess up my new rims ;)
FYI
Below is a listing of common speed ratings:
Q = 99 MPH, 160km/h
S = 112 MPH, 180km/h
T = 118 MPH, 190km/h
U = 124 MPH, 200km/h
H = 130 MPH, 210km/h
V = 149 MPH, 240km/h
Z = 149 MPH, 240km/h and over
W = 168 MPH, 270km/h
Y = 186 MPH, 300km/h
I've also heard that the higher rated, like ZR, have softer compounds, so make for better traction, which also helps cornering. Granted Z-rated tires are not as economical as some others. Neither are 245's. : )
But in my first TGP, I always ran the tires softer in the summer (around 34 (F) and 32 (R), then firmed them up to 36 (F) and 35 (R) in the winter to make the tread stand up better for driving in snow.
Quote from: GangstGP on November 30, 2006, 11:54:58 AM
Quote from: TGP Nick on November 29, 2006, 04:29:16 PM
My Yokes (pictured above) only cost $325! :dunno:
are they 245/50 ZR16s or 245/50 R 16s? because if they have an "R" in the sequence instead of "ZR" then they are not high performance tires, they are just good for everyday driving and longevity.
$100 a tire is what I paid too and its $25 a tire for mount and balance. basically $500.
Invasion, that would be a good deal on some 17s IF they were Z rated. same as I paid but bigger rim size... those always cost more.
My Yokes are VR rated.
Here's my BFG Comp TA's. ZR rated. Good tires. Handle great.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Rw89TGP/TGP%20Pics/HPIM0292.jpg)
i really don't care much about speed rating. i'm not going to be driving 100+ mph anyway and it's not like i autocross the car. H-rated is fine with me.
my first set of kellys were W rated. :icon_wink: those are the ones I smoked a Camaro doing 100+mph, then went around this curve. when I look back I was hell stupid for goin that fast. I remember thinking the tires saved my ass. the curve wasnt that sharp at the speed limit but doin a buck it comes up a lot faster. :laugh:
turbosedan, you are totally right.
I actually paid 12.50 a tire and like $109 *goes and checks*
and $2 disposal fee/tire $494.88 total. $436.88 for just the tires. they are "W" rated with treadware rating of 420 :laugh: