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Title: Exhaust questions..
Post by: pontiac6ksteawd on November 25, 2006, 08:49:21 PM
I am planning on upgrading my factory exhaust over the winter sometime since my cat is clogged, and the rear y-pipe is bent. the question is, what is going to be the most beneficial size for my exhaust without overkill? I dont think I am going to upgrade my downpipe because none of the exhaust people in this area are good enuf (in my book) to do that type of work. I do plan on going with a high flow cat, thinking I might need a resonator, and some muffs. I am hoping to find a mandrel exhaust shop, but I got a feeling that I am not going to have very good luck with that.

Now if planned mods would change your opinion of this, I will tell you what exactly I have planned.
I am not going to be upgrading the turbo. If it goes out, I plan on just rebuilding it, or replacing it with another OEM model if I can find one. I do plan to port match the intake manifolds, but I do not plan on doing a 3x00 intake swap. I am quite pleased with my intercooler and radiator system, so I dont plan any mods in that area either. When my PMIII goes out, I do plan on swapping over to a vacume 3 or 4 channel brake system. Beyond that, I already have a Jeff M. TG160 chip, but as the conversation is going in the other topics, I might upgrade to one of the other chips when prudent. But first I have to get the other driving issues ironed out.

Thanks in advance for your opinions.
Title: Re: Exhaust questions..
Post by: Invasion1 on November 25, 2006, 09:36:59 PM
From the stock DP----------->2.5 Mandrel Bent Pipe---------> Magnaflow High Flow Cat----------->"Y" Pipe ---------->Dual Magnaflows with your choice of tips.
Title: Re: Exhaust questions..
Post by: pontiac6ksteawd on November 25, 2006, 09:39:05 PM
So you dont think there will be need of a resonator? I have heard that with a high flow cat, it can really make it sound horrid. Any other things I should be thinking along with this stuff?
Title: Re: Exhaust questions..
Post by: Invasion1 on November 25, 2006, 09:40:17 PM
Nope.....you could add one if you didn't like the sound i guess but i think there a waste of good $$$
Title: Re: Exhaust questions..
Post by: mfewtrail on November 26, 2006, 01:34:09 PM
Quote from: Invasion1 on November 25, 2006, 09:36:59 PM
From the stock DP----------->2.5 Mandrel Bent Pipe---------> Magnaflow High Flow Cat----------->"Y" Pipe ---------->Dual Magnaflows with your choice of tips.

Or you could go w/ the same basic setup as above, but delete the mufflers and add a resonator. ;) That would cut down on the cost some if that's a concern. I purchased my car w/ a carsound/magnaflow cat & a 12'' universal resonator already on it. I upgraded the stock piping to 2.5'' mandrel bent tubing though. I'm sure you've heard my exhaust clips before?

Pulling away from the camera slowly.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6571dd47-2e6b-4c66-beab-987d003e1b03.htm

Launching w/ a little boost, you can see how quiet the exhaust is at WOT in this video.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/16063e3e-026f-458e-838f-987d0043d371.htm


Luke has a soundclip of his former red TGP w/ magnaflow mufflers on his website btw.
http://www.lukez34.com/galleries/index.html  Scroll to the bottom there and you'll find it.

From what I've seen, ALL of our cars sound pretty close to one another due to the turbochargers.
Title: Re: Exhaust questions..
Post by: pontiac6ksteawd on November 26, 2006, 02:39:56 PM
Ok, thats with the Magnaflow muffs, does anyone have sound clips of what a borla, or thrush, delta 40s, or ?? would sound like with the turbo motors? Or do they pretty much sound the same. I have already ordered a High flow magnaflow carsound cat. Still trying to locate a mandrel shop that will install my parts (cat and muffs), I just have to decide on which set of muffs I want to get. I can get away with using no muffs at all. Just dont know how loud that will be, or if it would even sound good.

I had borla on my Allante', but since it was a v-8, I know the sound is not going to be anywhere near the same. The sound i am going for is a deeper rumble, which I know is already a inherant sound of the early 2.8/3.1. I either want to keep that sound, or maybe even deeper. I plan on re-using my stock TGP exhaust tips thou. I just like how they fill the space fluidly.
Title: Re: Exhaust questions..
Post by: mfewtrail on November 26, 2006, 05:14:13 PM
If you go w/ some mufflers, I would choose some sort of magnaflow, dynomax, or other brand muffler that has a straight-through design. I have no mufflers on my car at all Brian, just the cat and resonator as I stated above. The car is noticeable at idle and when cruising along barely touching the gas, but anything over about 1/2 throttle, the exhaust becomes just about whisper quiet.

This is the style of resonator I have on my car. I think the ones this guy lists have spiraled cores, he usually has a picture of the inside listed. I'm pretty sure my resonator has a straight through style core and isn't spiraled...either one would probably work fine. I believe the spiral core does help speed up the exhaust gas a bit, a lot of aftermarket diesel exhaust systems have spiral core mufflers included.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UNIVERSAL-STAINLESS-STEEL-RESONATOR-3-1-2-IN_W0QQitemZ160054607991QQihZ006QQcategoryZ33630QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

That guy usually has a lot of 2.5'' and 3'' resonators listed and he'll make whatever length you want. Search "universal resonator" on ebay motors and it'll come up w/ some other similar ones.