Yesterday I was driving my TGP to the meet. As I was driving, I could smell something that smelled like burning plastic, so I pulled into a gas station and popped the hood- I could see smoke that looked as if it was coming from the primary cooling fan... it started to subside, so I went back and got in the car (I left it idling the whole time) and to my horror, my temp gauge was up to 230*! During this whole time, neither of my cooling fans had turned on! I shut the car off and Krenzy and I ran to Oreilly's and got some new relays for the fans, swapped em in, and the fans STILL did not work. I tried doing the paper-clip method, since when you check the codes with a paper-clip, it turns the fans on. When I did this, the fans still did not turn on!! I drove the car for the rest of the day and it stayed cool (ran at about 170-190* and I have a stock thermostat). When I drove home, the temp gauge started to rise, as I was driving slower through my neighborhood- when I parked the car in my garage, it was at 230*. The fans never came on like they usually do. I opened the hood, because I heard a wierd "rumbling" sound... when the hood was opened, I realized it was my coolant that was boiling!! I need some help, guys! It was 103* outside yesterday BTW.
Thanks
I would say your fan motor died, but befor we check that, we know something isnt working. So disconnect the fan wire AT the fan. Jump the terminals on your ALDL port, and see if those wires are hot (Multimeter). I would bet it is, but its always good to be sure. If those are hot then...
Time for a new cooling fan motor. Good luck with that thou, cause the correct cooling fan motor isnt made for the TGP any more. You have to buy this kit that includes a new fan, and also buy a new motor, Roughly 2-300 bucks depending on where you go.
I went to the junk yard with my old fan in hand. Measured up against other fans that had the correct "new" motor until I found a fan that was correct in size, width and depth, bought it (and the motor since it was attached to correct "new" motor) and installed it. Havent had a problem since. The blade style will be completely diferent compareing old to new. The old TGP style fan blade is straight bladed, with varying gaps between blades. The new fan will have curved blades.
I wanna say I got it off a DOHC car that was a couple years newer, but I couldnt swear to that. I do remember that I finnally found a use for a DOHC car, PARTS!!
I seem to remember that a something like a '95 3100 fan motor and blades will fit in the fan housing and runs quieter.
http://www.tgpforums.com/index.php?topic=3302.0
The thing I find really strange is that NEITHER of my fans are working :icon_confused: At the same time, I don't think I've ever seen/heard my secondary cooling fan run. Both could be bad? I'll try checking the connection with the test light, see if I am getting power to the fans.
Thanks everyone
Nick
Quote from: Dark Ride on July 08, 2007, 04:16:12 PM
I seem to remember that a something like a '95 3100 fan motor and blades will fit in the fan housing and runs quieter.
Quote from: 93luminaz34 on July 08, 2007, 09:11:00 PM
http://www.tgpforums.com/index.php?topic=3302.0
my memory isn't as bad as I thought :icon_biggrin:
Well today I got the TGP out and turned the key on, put a paper-clip in the diagnostic port (which usually flashes ur codes and turns on your fans), then I went under the car and unplugged the wires going into each fan. I put a test light to the wires on the primary fan and it lit up, I put the light on the secondary fan wires, and it lit up also. So I'm getting power to the fans. I have two dead fans then.
I know you guys said a primary fan from a '95 3100 will fit in the car- what can I get that will fit to replace my secondary fan?
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I replaced mine with a fan motor from a cadillac. Dont remember the model, I just know it had a fan in front of the radiator. That motor should also still be available at a auto parts store.
I just wanna grab two fans when I go to the junkyard this week... and get an AC compressor lol. Does anyone know what I can grab a fan off that will replace the SECONDARY fan on my TGP?
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What car can I pull a fan off to replace my SECONDARY fan? Will a 3100 secondary fan be the same as the fan on our cars?
Quote from: TGP Nick on July 10, 2007, 09:15:11 PM
What car can I pull a fan off to replace my SECONDARY fan? Will a 3100 secondary fan be the same as the fan on our cars?
Anyone?
As I mentioned befor, I grabbed a front fan from a FWD box style caddi. It had the right fan motor, but it was kinda pain to get to since it was in front of the radiator (like the TGP). The bumper was almost resting on the motor which made it a pain.
Take your old fans with you to the yard, and compare them side by side. You need 3 things to match up. The mounting tabs have to be in correct relation to your current one. The plug hole has to be in correct location to the prior item. And the fan blade mount has to be identical.
I fixed this last week- grabbed both cooling fans out of a '96 GP 3100. The secondary fan motor fit right into the TGP fan blade and fan housing. The primary fan took some modification... I had to do some grinding with a dremel and drilled some new holes, but I used the 3100 fan motor and fan blade in the TGP housing and both fans now work great- car now runs at normal temps. Problem solved! Thanks guys! :thumb:
are the fans quieter? mine sounds liek a damned airplane with the a/c on and idling in hot weather
They are sooooooo much quieter than the old one. The old ones sounded like the car was getting ready for takeoff- the new ones actually sound cool. :icon_cool: