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Title: New Guy....
Post by: Jonpro03 on May 11, 2009, 12:53:49 PM
But no stranger to a grand prix. I've been trying and trying to get my hands on a TGP for 4 years now and my dream has finally come true. Im kinda in a trance state right now. I look at the car, and I know its mine, but it just hasn't sunk in yet.

I bought the car from psych0matt on w-body. I paid $1200 for her. She's got 156k miles. I drove up to Michigan from central Illinois to buy the car, and drove the car back home. Matt told me that it didn't have 3rd gear which was ok, I could drive all the way home in second and maybe if Im lucky get it in 4th. That didn't happen. When I got the car, the only gear which actually worked was 1st. 2nd gear would catch but it would slip if I tried to accelerate. I drove most of the way home between 40 and 55 mph.

(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/107/l_096b10fc1edb48c5b5eeff78817bbfe0.jpg)

(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/106/l_93df63194c45449aae14848d0bb20648.jpg)

(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/101/l_351ccf6ea7fa42369fd4dc5d3d912d15.jpg)

(http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/74/l_c91688b3fa494b5ea4cfb265dc520b0b.jpg)

(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/96/l_1ae22658905248c686627a32444d8436.jpg)

My other car:

(http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/4/l_e392669f30e14dc3bb5f5cb867f8b39b.jpg)

(http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/28/l_f714b394c76640c284a86080fde3f5f7.jpg)


Anyway. I have to ask...

How do I get up to speed on TGP's. Im going to have the engine and trans out soon for a rebuild. And yes, I like to race. I race my red one, take her to the track a couple times a year.
I don't know the first thing about the LG5. It might have a chip already. Where do I get started?


Finally,

Her name is Betty... Black Betty

The '96s name is Eleanor. (NO NOT LIKE THE MUSTANG ON GONE IN 60SEC)

Jon
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: stargazer7467 on May 11, 2009, 03:28:36 PM
nice score looks like someone has been working on it in the past.
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: z284pwr on May 11, 2009, 10:37:17 PM
Black, with the lower spoiler, nice!

I hope you didn't actually use that "buffer" on the entire car?  If so you used a whole lot a time and didn't gain a whole lot from it.  If you want to get some good results get yourself a Porter Cable 7424 or similar.  Throw get a wool pad and some Meguiar's 105 Compound.  Get a whole lot more results for the effort and remove a whole ton more spider webs :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: NTRCOOL on May 11, 2009, 10:59:06 PM
I found a guy on ebay that sells 4t60 trans rebuild kits on ebay and I asked him about the extra clutch plate and the different shift solenoid for the TGPS and he said when you purchase the kit send him a message and about it and he will send you the proper shift solenoid for an extra $100 and the clutch plate comes with the kit. only problem my ebay message was deleted from being old so I can't remember which one it was so be sure to ask.
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: mfewtrail on May 11, 2009, 11:24:37 PM
Are you sure it only had 1st gear? 1st gear @ 40mph would be running some pretty high rpms(around 5Kish). :icon_eek:
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: dogginred90 on May 12, 2009, 07:26:46 AM
NTRCOOLER do you have a link for this rebuild kit, or the name of the company? I would like to rebuild mine once I replace it.   Thanks
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: Jonpro03 on May 12, 2009, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: mfewtrail on May 11, 2009, 11:24:37 PM
Are you sure it only had 1st gear? 1st gear @ 40mph would be running some pretty high rpms(around 5Kish). :icon_eek:

It would shift into second but it wouldn't hold the gear if you gave it a whole lot of throttle. Actually, my top speed going home was 60mph going down a huge hill.

Does anybody have any idea whats wrong with the trans. It would shift into all 4 gears but it would slip if you gave it any throttle.
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: flybynite on May 12, 2009, 07:26:30 PM
Looks like one of skalors old cars. Could be wrong tho. Most likely the clutches and steels are toast along with all the seals... A full rebuild and a new torque converter is what you will need, Or just swap in a 5 speed.   ;)
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: TGP Nick on May 12, 2009, 07:28:09 PM
IIRC, it used to be one of god910's cars.

Glad to see a member picked it up! ;)
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: stargazer7467 on May 12, 2009, 07:28:37 PM
thats what my trans was doing, just finished switching the engine/trans because of it :(
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: mfewtrail on May 13, 2009, 12:46:18 AM
Quote from: TGP Nick on May 12, 2009, 07:28:09 PM
IIRC, it used to be one of god910's cars.

Glad to see a member picked it up! ;)

Yeah, it was one of Jay's(god910) former TGP's.
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: z284pwr on May 13, 2009, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: Jonpro03 on May 12, 2009, 02:04:09 PM
It would shift into second but it wouldn't hold the gear if you gave it a whole lot of throttle. Actually, my top speed going home was 60mph going down a huge hill.

Does anybody have any idea whats wrong with the trans. It would shift into all 4 gears but it would slip if you gave it any throttle.

What do you mean by "hold the gear" if you gave it a "whole lot of throttle" in second?  That could simply be the downshift cable or whatever they are called adjusted wrong.  If you really want to test it, disconnect it from the throttle body and drive it and see what gears hold and what don't.  The slipping in 4th gear with any throttle sounds basically like it's screwed anyway though. :icon_confused:
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: Serge A. Storms on May 13, 2009, 04:15:27 PM
I wondered who bought it, nice buy!
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: Jonpro03 on May 15, 2009, 08:50:48 AM
Quote from: Serge A. Storms on May 13, 2009, 04:15:27 PM
I wondered who bought it, nice buy!

Can I get some history on the car? I see it has a 160* tstat, STB, the xover and downpipe have been wrapped. Looks like it got a new set of ball joints lately and the tierods are in good shape.

Anything else? Does it have a chip?

Pics!!!

(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/74/l_3896923a75404ac5b1531678db1daabe.jpg)

(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/76/l_cd8db609f2374e77bf7f814d4f266059.jpg)
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: mfewtrail on May 15, 2009, 10:09:31 PM
Jon, that car has a 160* t-stat because it has a Topgun 160 chip in it along with a Jeff M. x-over. I remember that Jay ran a 15.21 @ 90 mph in it a few years ago when he still had it.
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: Jonpro03 on May 16, 2009, 08:57:17 AM
Quote from: mfewtrail on May 15, 2009, 10:09:31 PM
Jon, that car has a 160* t-stat because it has a Topgun 160 chip in it along with a Jeff M. x-over. I remember that Jay ran a 15.21 @ 90 mph in it a few years ago when he still had it.

Thanks, thats exactly what I wanted to know.
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: Jonpro03 on May 18, 2009, 08:42:22 PM
Almost done!  But I had to call it a night. I got the halfshafts back in and lower control arms reconnected. Did the brakes while I was in there too. After the downpipe, all i have to do is wire and plumb it and fire it up!

Won't get back to work on it until wednesday tho.

(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/82/l_a0399b76b80f45e28dcff882e36f1301.jpg)
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: GPChief on May 19, 2009, 07:01:52 PM
You got your tranny rebuilt that fast??  Wow.
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: Jonpro03 on May 20, 2009, 07:24:32 PM
Junkyard swap.  I'll rebuild it after Im done and take my time to get it perfect.
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: z284pwr on May 20, 2009, 09:24:22 PM
Quote from: Jonpro03 on May 20, 2009, 07:24:32 PM
Junkyard swap.  I'll rebuild it after Im done and take my time to get it perfect.

Was it a TGP Junkyard trans or a regular 4T60?  You may be in for pulling the motor again when it gets toasted if it's not a TGP one.
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: Jonpro03 on May 21, 2009, 08:06:13 AM
Regular 4t60
Oh Yeah I know. I just plan on it holding me over until I'm finished with the rebuild.
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: Jonpro03 on May 21, 2009, 10:49:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkhVoVIwv0U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkhVoVIwv0U)
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: NTRCOOL on May 22, 2009, 12:15:37 AM
Saddly no I don't have a link for the rebuild kit but if you message the vendors you might find the guy i ran across I'll try to do some messaging this weekend after the drag races at Cordova
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: stargazer7467 on May 22, 2009, 10:04:29 AM
Did I hear a mini starter on there? Ive been looking for one but theyre always gone at the yard.
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: NTRCOOL on May 26, 2009, 11:32:20 AM
I just messaged a vendor on ebay that had a 4T60-e rebuild kit and I asked him if he could find out about that trans kit that i found a few months ago so hopefully he knows someone or can point me in the right direction and il let you guys know asap
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: dogginred90 on May 26, 2009, 02:16:44 PM
Thanks NTRCOOL I appreciate you looking for us(me).
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: NTRCOOL on May 28, 2009, 09:45:10 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p2761.l1259&item=260334818481&viewitem=

Okay guys this is the rebuild kit that I found a few months ago that I was talking about. The ebay store name is Lakes Transmission. Just message the vendor and let him know what you got so that way he can send you the right solenoid. If any other questions that I might be able to help let me know. Also let me know if the link works its my first one.
Title: Re: New Guy....
Post by: dogginred90 on May 28, 2009, 10:52:02 PM
Thats the guy I messaged earlier this week, and he said that kit would be fine for my car. Thanks alot for the info.