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Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: 4PASNU on February 27, 2003, 09:05:24 PM
I just wondering if anyone has tried to wire in one of the newer CD players (like from a '97-'03 Grand Prix) into a TGP?  Would it work with the steering wheel radio controls?
Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: Chris A on February 27, 2003, 10:18:40 PM
No, it wouldn't work.

The newer radio controls use an analog signal, while the older ones (TGP) use a digital signal bus. I'm not sure what it would take to get it to work.

Chris
Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: 4PASNU on February 27, 2003, 11:14:24 PM
I know there is always the PAC SWI-X steering wheel interface but I was hoping to keep from adding anything else electronic wise.  I'm using one in my 2000 GP now and it works great but that would kinda defeat the point of having a somewhat "stock" stereo.  I'm going to have to do some research and see if there is a way.
Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: no1kicker on February 28, 2003, 11:05:52 AM
I think you can use any 1.5 din stereo.
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Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: Chris A on February 28, 2003, 06:42:31 PM
Yeah, pretty much you can use any 1.5 din. I know pioneer and alpine make nice units.

The PAC has one that will work with the older controls, I don't know which one it is but it does exist.

I can understand the somewhat stock stereo thing. I could have bought an aftermarket stereo for my F150, however, I just got the Mach radio from an explorer because i wanted a 'stock' one. However, I don't think the alpine unit would look too out  of place in the TGP dash, and i'm pretty sure you could get most of the radio controls to work. In fact, I think the alpine would look more at home than the actual TGP cd-player does!

Chris
Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: 4PASNU on February 28, 2003, 09:13:59 PM
There are two things I was trying to accompish with this.  One was keeping the "stock" look and second was trying to save a little cash.  I would love to get one of the Alpine units but just not now.  If anyone knows how to interface the steering wheel controls to the newer style cd like I was talking about without the use of the SWI, please let me know.
Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: R Dubya on March 01, 2003, 08:05:26 AM
Quote from: Chris AYeah, pretty much you can use any 1.5 din. I know pioneer and alpine make nice units.

The PAC has one that will work with the older controls, I don't know which one it is but it does exist.

I can understand the somewhat stock stereo thing. I could have bought an aftermarket stereo for my F150, however, I just got the Mach radio from an explorer because i wanted a 'stock' one. However, I don't think the alpine unit would look too out  of place in the TGP dash, and i'm pretty sure you could get most of the radio controls to work. In fact, I think the alpine would look more at home than the actual TGP cd-player does!

Chris

Can you replace the factory stereo and still keep the steering wheel contorols functioning?  Anyone do it?
Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: Chris A on March 01, 2003, 08:12:38 AM
Replace it with an AFTERMARKET stereo?


Thats the point of the PAC unit. It interfaces the SWC to the infared remote control of the aftermarket stereo.
Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: R Dubya on March 01, 2003, 08:20:16 AM
What kind of aftermarket do you recommend?  I have this annoying popping sound that comes through the speakers, and I know its the factory deck.  What do you think?
Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: 4PASNU on March 01, 2003, 03:40:44 PM
I have always liked Alpine.  They have a clean look and are one of the best head units out there.  And, as mentioned before, they make 1.5 DIN sizes.  Just my opinion though.
Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: alaskatgp on December 21, 2003, 01:43:02 PM
This may have been answered in this thread but I don't see it. I was wondering if anyone has tried to replace "just" the CD part of the OEM AM/FM/CD player with one from a newer model. The CD player is a seperate case from the reciever and can be unpluged and removed. I pulled mine apart tried to fix it. It will spin the cd but will not read/play.
Maybe???? If anyone has a working one on the shelf.. :lol:  :lol: let's talk.
Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: no1kicker on December 21, 2003, 06:03:29 PM
I think it's been done with a cd player from a 94 Firebird, by a member on here.  Maybe 6000ste?
Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: RareGMFan on December 21, 2003, 10:46:33 PM
Indeed.  I've used the same one in both the 6000 and GP STEs, and  both were plug and play.  The only thing you'll need is the slightly different version of steering wheel controls in order for the buttons to work 100% perfectly.  They look identicle, just have some different features on the buttons.  Like the middle (where it's blank on the tape deck version) there is an "on/off" switch for the stereo.  To its right, the "seek" button also allows you to skip and repeat CD tracks on this version of controls.  And to its left, the "stop/play" button allows you to switch between CD and radio.

It will work even without these controls, you just won't be able to control the CD features.  Plus, I noticed when I hit "fade" or "balance" with the old controls, it did work, but it wouldn't change the screen to show the bar moving back and fourth for amount faded/balanced.  It was wierd.  But it worked just fine for me for almost a year till I found the proper CD controls.  I must say, though, it's a hell of a lot more fun being able to skip the tracks at the touch of a button.   :lol:

Here is the stereo I'm using:

http://24.14.165.54/auctions/Dash-daytime.JPG
Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: maximage on December 22, 2003, 08:56:33 AM
I know y9ou had mentioned price being a concern. Honestly, if it is a big concern, you are looking at the wrong direction. To purchase a ne factory unit would be WAY more than going with a good Aftermarket, and most of the units in salvage yards are overpriced and usually damaged. At least around me they are.

You can get a good pioneer with the steering wheel remote for around $250
Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: 4PASNU on December 22, 2003, 09:04:30 AM
Quote from: maximageI know y9ou had mentioned price being a concern. Honestly, if it is a big concern, you are looking at the wrong direction. To purchase a ne factory unit would be WAY more than going with a good Aftermarket, and most of the units in salvage yards are overpriced and usually damaged. At least around me they are.

You can get a good pioneer with the steering wheel remote for around $250

Man this post is old!  I can't believe it came back to life.  Anyway, the reason I had mentioned it in the first place was because I was thinking of moving my CD player from my 2000 GTP to my Turbo.  But now that 6000 says you can use a CD from a Firebird I might just try that!  Is 94 the only year that will work?
Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: no1kicker on December 22, 2003, 12:28:15 PM
Hey I've seen those cd players in other GP's as well, around 93ish.
Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: LukeZ34 on December 22, 2003, 01:53:30 PM
Quote from: alaskatgpThis may have been answered in this thread but I don't see it. I was wondering if anyone has tried to replace "just" the CD part of the OEM AM/FM/CD player with one from a newer model. The CD player is a seperate case from the reciever and can be unpluged and removed. I pulled mine apart tried to fix it. It will spin the cd but will not read/play.
Maybe???? If anyone has a working one on the shelf.. :lol:  :lol: let's talk.

I have.

The factory CD player in my TGP is very intermittant on when it works. Sometimes, It'll pull the CD in, won't play, and then spit it back out, or it will pull the CD in and not do anything, nor let me have it back, and also sometimes doesn't do anything at all.
Laying around, I had a CD player from a 1997 Grand Prix GT. It had been in a flood, and everything had worked fine with it until a couple of months after it had been drowned. It played CD's just fine, but the amp/tuner was screw up. So, I thought about using the CD mechanism from that CD player to replace the one in the old TGP cd player. Did it work? No, absolutly not. The 97 CD mechanism uses a single ribbon cable to connect to the main amplifier board in the radio. The 90 CD mechanism uses multiple little plugs to make it's connections. The 2 mechanisms were in no way interchangable.

You can however, replace your CD mechanism with a new one. I did this in my old 93 Lumina Z34. The factory CD player had problems playing, and I found out that this company ( http://www.mnrelectronics.com ) can sell you a new mechanism. So that's what I did, called them up, told them the part # from the cd mechanism, they sent me a replacement, and I sent my bad one back to them.
Check out my website. http://www.lukez34.com go to the 'Media Galleries'
and scroll down to the "Reference" section. You'll see a link to the repair procedure I created for my Lumina CD player.

Good Luck!
Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: no1kicker on December 22, 2003, 03:20:24 PM
I did that except with a tape player.  They are seperate and found in many GM cars and trucks.
Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: alaskatgp on December 22, 2003, 04:26:28 PM
I'm going to try to find one of stereos about that year model. I'm still not sure we'er on the same page. When you unhook the CD player from the reciever there are seven brown wires that controls FF, REV, Power, Stop, and Skip etc. If the remote controls didn't work properly you could switch those around until the button does the correct function. :?  :?
Title: Has anyone tried this?
Post by: alaskatgp on December 22, 2003, 04:59:36 PM
Ok I'm STUPID I din't see Lukez34's reply. Thanks Lukez that 's what I needed.