I should get part of that action!!
:roll:  :twisted:

Well guys my baby has a new owner  :cry:  .  Thanks for all the support and feedback.  I won't name the person who got it (I'll let he/she/it post if they want to).  I know it's in good hands and will have a good home.  :patriot:

Here's a website I created very quickly to view the pics!

"Website has been discontinued"

These were made to show the problems areas and were NOT 'touched up' to show off the car.

Also, depending on what a local garge has to say in a diagnostic report this week, the car may already be accounted for by one of the forum's members.

Later

:roll: Are you still interested Davis or Maddux31???  TGPilot has other obligations.   :cry:   Price is negotiable!   :shock:

Decatur isn't very far from Bloomington!  If you want to stop by, let me know!

I'm still waiting for an offer.  :idea:   I want the car to have a good home, preferably with someone that knows what this car is!  :wink:

It looks like if Ken  :?:  gets the car and goes everywhere asked to show it off, he'll put more miles on it than I did in the last 14 years!  :wink:

Hey1bum... :arrow:

I tried to leave you a PM but your profile wouldn't let me!  Arrangements could easily be made to view this classic!  :shock:  Particularly if you're a prospective buyer or maybe as an unbiased 3rd party, willing to attest to the state of this beauty for the sake of those interested!

Later

Now, now gentlemen, let's behave.  :agrue:  First with the $$$$ get's this beauty.  I really hate to part with it.  I've owned it longer than a lot of marriages last (LOL)   :lol:  !!  But personal finances dictate that I have to part with it  :(

TGPilot, if you want to post the pics I sent you, go ahead.  You have my permission.

Later dudes.

For Sale
1990 Turbo Grand Prix
Black w/ grey leather

Original owner
May 1990

I know TGP owners know the following, but I'll list it anyway
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3.1L V-6 with McLaren Turbocharger
:!: 87,729 miles :!:
Heads Up Display
A/C
Power windows
Anti-lock power brakes
Power assisted steering
Power antenna
AM/FM Cassette Player
Rear Window defogger
Cruise Control
Remote Keyless Entry
Remote trunk release
Trip computer and compass built into Console
Leather seats (rear seats never used!)
6-way power driver?s seat
Lumbar control for both driver and passenger seats
Tilt Steering wheel
Tachometer
Tinted Windows
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History:
Powermaster replaced about 3 years ago
Transmission rebuilt about 1.5 years ago
Crossover pipe repaired approx. 1 year ago
New coils, wires, and plugs last summer
Fuel pump last summer
(Have spare PM accumulator)
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Known problems:
A/C compressor/clutch
Instrument gauges give false readings (check gauges, incorrect temp, fuel) probably needs re-soldered
Remote keyless module needs re-soldered
Headliner is starting to droop and needs re-installed
Wear on driver?s seat
Lumbar control wires need replaced in console
Front Air dam removed due to 'curbing'.  It's in the trunk!
Fuel pump is 'hard wired' due to connector failure
Rear defogger did not work last winter???
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Asking $2250
Buyer handles shipping

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I have a few pictures but don't know how to get them in this post! (yet)

I remove the air cleaner, then loosen the nuts on the dogbones and use a 24" wood clamp (like a Stanley or ViseGrip bar clamp) and use it to take tension off the dogbones then remove the dogbones and I slowly tighten the clamp to get another 4" of clearance to get the rear plugs (Don't overdo it).  Make sure the clamp is secured, else you'll be counting your fingers!  DON'T CLAMP TOO TIGHT OR YOU'LL CRACK YOUR EXHAUST SYSTEM OR MAYBE OTHER ITEMS UNDER STRAIN!!

This may not be the accepted way, but a local garage showed me this tip and it's worked for me the last 2 times I've changed plugs!

I can't emphasize enough on making sure the clamp is secure!!!  It will difinitely hurt if it slips off!!!

If you're talking about the 90 degree elbow, it goes to the turbocharger wastegate actuator.  The one behind it is open for venting.

I haven't seen or heard my secondary fan kick in at all.  I don't know what the set points are for the fan switches.  Since my TGP hasn't really 'overheated'  (gauge has never shown more than 220F) I don't think I've had a head gasket problem.

I hope florida_tgp's son gets smart and takes the time to replace the kinked hose.  It's no biggie and is very cheap compared to the alternative consequences.  An ounce of prevention....  

The longest I've ever gone between cooling system maintenance is 3 years  :oops: .  Usually I do it yearly i.e. normal drain and refill system.  I  usually check for collapsing hose and leaks everytime I pop the hood.  I check my driveway for signs of anything leaking.  I wash the engine and engine compartment every other car wash.

Prestone has simple backflush kits to use your garden hose.  Available just about anywhere including WalMart.  According to my water bill last month, I used about 1000 gallons of water flushing the radiator and engine (or I've a broken water line to the house   :?: ).

"If you don't bleed on it, it won't work right".

Thanks for the feedback.

Wouldn't a head gasket failure have water in the oil or oil in the water and have a tendency to over pressurize the cooling system to where the radiator cap would 'pop off'?

The problem is not constant!  It's intermittant(sp).  I can run days without the gauge light flickering.  Othertimes it comes on when I start the car cold and stays on for a while, then flickers on and off the rest of the day.

Once I found out that there was a second temperature sensor, I replaced it.  With the new sensor installed the 'normal' temperature seemed to be higher.  I tested the sensor (thermistor) and found it running about 100 ohms lower than it should be.  I 'spliced' in a 150 ohm variable resistor and ran the car to operating temperature for 20 minutes.  I then adjusted the gauge to read 180F (the present thermostat setting) and now the 'check gauges' light will only come on when the temp reads 200+.

No water in oil, no oil in water, no 'boil-over', fan kicks in occasionaly usually at idle with air on, radiator has been flushed backwards and forwards at least twice, block has been power flushed in both directions, and the car is running GREAT!  As soon as I get a little extra $, I'll probably add a 'real' temperature gauge to check accuracy, but at this time I tend to agree with Chris A that the gauge cluster is probably showing age (a common problem with these beasties).  Any other comments are suggestions are still appreciated because I'm not 100% sure.

I don't like 'alerts or alarms' to show if there is no real problem!  If you follow the 'thread' you'll see I haven't missed too much.  (Probably over kill!)

VIN 1G5WP14V1LF269361

1990 TGP

Original owner  :P