Quote from: RareGMFan on July 30, 2006, 11:12:32 PM
OK, since you didn't hold any punches back, I'm certainly not going to, especially for someone clearly in the wrong.  That was an absolutely absurd reply, 90RedTGP.  It was the equivalent to those assholes that flick you off because you honked at them for cutting you off, and nearly take out your front end.  Invasion had every right to say what he said.  Don't start insulting just because he called you out on your irresponsibility.

See, eBay works in a very simple fashion.  You find something you want to own, you bid the most you're willing to pay for that thing, and if you win, you pay, and own it.  You don't get to win it to make sure no one else does, and THEN really put some thought into whether you want it or not.  It's a legally binding contract, which means backing out is technically not an option.  That seller is well within his legal rights to sue you for the money of the car/force you to make good on your purchase.  Don't act like you're doing us a favor by "passing info".  There's nothing "nice" about trying to get out of your responsibility just because you're feeling buyer's remorse, now. 

It's people like you that make the feedback system necessary on eBay.  EBAy is not a game.  Take responsibility for your choices.

Well put! ;)

TGP on ebay, doesn't look too bad, Has issues, including brakes.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pontiac-Grand-Prix-RARE-TURBO-1990-MCLAREN-TURBO-GRANDPRIX-VERY-RARE-MINT-MUST-SEE_W0QQitemZ140010827870QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6422QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I need the A/C heater controls, how much?  Thanks

 :icon_mrgreen: I like!

Now, I'm feeling old.

67 Pontiac grand prix (wished I still owned)
70 Volkswagen beetle (restored and still own)
89 Pontiac grand prix LE
2000 Chevy 1500 ext. cab p/u
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix SE (still own)
2002 Toyota highlander limited
2004 Chevy 1500 ext. cab p/u
2005 Toyota Camry (still own)
1990 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix (just turned over 20k :icon_mrgreen:)

Interesting to see what others have owned.

Oh great, I just bought a Dell with support:icon_eek:

Seems to run fine with the new ECM, without the performance chip.  I am cleaning all grounds, and replaced battery just for kicks.  Performance chip makes the idle go up to 2K plus.  Stock chip, stays at 1K, sometimes less.  Still got me confused.  With stock chip, has been running fine for 2 days now :icon_eek:

 :icon_frown:Well, it started acting up again.  Found a ECM.  Will see if that helps.  Should I try it without the TG160 first, or just install in new computer?

Driving it today, still running perfect.  Thanks for the input, I will start hunting a ECM.  If I can't find one at a junk yard, are the Borg Warner or other aftermarket OK?

 :icon_eek:update - Worked on car today, double checking all electrical connections (unplugging each sensor, voltage testing the wires to see if any have high voltage, no help.  Decide to check the coolant sensor.  Unplug it, test the voltage, seems ok.  I crossed it to initiate the low coolant light while engine is sputtering and running like pure crap.  Soon as I make the loop, the engine shuts off, I'm suprised.  I have my wife re-start the car, it started and was running perfectly.  She says, the low coolant light is off :icon_eek:.  I said, ok, but how about the service engine soon light.  She tells me its off also.  I check everything, drive it around, everything is perfect.  I rest ECM, no codes, and still running perect.  I completely confused.  Can a coolant sensor cause these problems?  Just doesn't seem like a correct fix.  I plan on tracing the coolant sensor wires next weekend to see if a possible short,

Ideas :icon_idea:

P.S.  Thanks for the input, great forum.

Was running perfect prior to this.

My knuckles are bleeding, wallet is getting empty.  Need some ideas. 

What chip?  Should I try removing the TG 160?

Yes, Crossover is original.

Since first post, replaced the following:

TPS
MAP
MAT
ICM
Coils
wires
plugs
IAC
Oxygen sensor


Grounds were done prior to me getting the car.   :icon_frown:Still have the same codes.

Have my first TGP problem.  Car was running fine, then just died.  I restarted, idle high, service engine light on, low cooland light on.  Gave it some gas, it died.  Checked codes, got code 22 and 34.  I reset computer (unhooked ground), same codes, would drive, and idled better, but not correctly.  low coolant ans service engine light still on.  Car is not low on coolant, or overheated.  Book says codfe 22 TPS (replaced TPS imediately, no change).  Book says code 34 could be bad MAP to ECM connection.  Checked, seemed ok.  Book says could be bad MAP sensor, replaced MAP sensor, no change.  Book also says could be bad ECM.  Don't know how to check that one.  Any help would be appreciated.

Not a big fan of the show, but do like the Vegas show best.  I much prefer the Sopranos and Deadwood.  :laugh:  Watching CSI makes me  :motz2:

 :icon_mrgreen:Thanks for the input.  I will enjoy driving the TGP.  I will work to get pics posted soon. :icon_wink: