Yet another trans

Started by maximage, August 11, 2003, 08:36:24 AM

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maximage

Ok, I'm starting to think these things eat more tannies than my Supra eats head gaskets!! Teh car was running funny, and we tracked it down to a bad cat. Punched the cat out and vioala!!! POWER!! Obviously a little to much though.... The F*in Tranny blew on the interstate!!!!  :evil:  I think it's time to find a different trans shop and some aftermarket goodies. When I'm done, that sob will take 1000hp without even blinking! Yet another reason why I hate domestic auto transmissions....
90 TGP- Mods, yeah I have them...
90 DSM Turbo 5-speed
02 Beetle GLS

Look! I finally updated my sig!!

TGPilot

Go for the 5-speed swap and you don't have to worry about the POS 4T60 trannies! Plus you will feel even more power with less rotating weight... 8)

maximage

I would, but sourcing a 5-speed for the gp here is nearly impossible. Plus, the car is supposed to be a daily driver, and a 5-speed in city traffic is a pain. Otherwise I would drive my Laser or the Supra. I'm just patiently awaiting the release of Jeff's trans kit... hehe
90 TGP- Mods, yeah I have them...
90 DSM Turbo 5-speed
02 Beetle GLS

Look! I finally updated my sig!!

TGPilot

Quote from: maximageI would, but sourcing a 5-speed for the gp here is nearly impossible. Plus, the car is supposed to be a daily driver, and a 5-speed in city traffic is a pain. Otherwise I would drive my Laser or the Supra. I'm just patiently awaiting the release of Jeff's trans kit... hehe

Haven't seen him on here lately. Must be hard at work I am sure... 8)

GPChief

MAXIMAGE,

   Your in SPARTA WI.......how many stoplights does that town have now 3??  J/K  there was only 1 when I lived there.
2004 GTP -  3.8 Blown - Only modding for MPG.
1997 GTP  - 3.8 Blown - Too many mods to list.
1996 GTP - 3.4 DOHC - Twin to my 1997.
1995 SE - soon to be a 3.8 turbo car.
1990 TSTE x 2 white cloth
1990 TSTE x 1 maroon leather
1990 TGP - 5 speed.

maximage

90 TGP- Mods, yeah I have them...
90 DSM Turbo 5-speed
02 Beetle GLS

Look! I finally updated my sig!!

maximage

Oh, get this.. we have a walmart SUPERCENTER opening in a few weeks! I would say it would be good for the guys on Ft McCoy, but there is one on the highway by tomah 5 miles from the base!
90 TGP- Mods, yeah I have them...
90 DSM Turbo 5-speed
02 Beetle GLS

Look! I finally updated my sig!!

GPChief

Back in my day people got their milk from Hermans Dairy, and there was maybe 2 places to eat. (besides the bowling alley)
:roll:


Peace...
2004 GTP -  3.8 Blown - Only modding for MPG.
1997 GTP  - 3.8 Blown - Too many mods to list.
1996 GTP - 3.4 DOHC - Twin to my 1997.
1995 SE - soon to be a 3.8 turbo car.
1990 TSTE x 2 white cloth
1990 TSTE x 1 maroon leather
1990 TGP - 5 speed.

Chris A

Quote from: maximageI would, but sourcing a 5-speed for the gp here is nearly impossible. Plus, the car is supposed to be a daily driver, and a 5-speed in city traffic is a pain. Otherwise I would drive my Laser or the Supra. I'm just patiently awaiting the release of Jeff's trans kit... hehe

Not scarce just people being cheap. I had a swap kit and I had to wait 1 1/2 years to get a buyer. I saw another in a yard but passed it up because it wasn't worth the trouble to pull it. I don't look for them anymore since no one seems to want to pay more than $200 for a kit.

Chris A

Quote from: maximageOk, I'm starting to think these things eat more tannies than my Supra eats head gaskets!! Teh car was running funny, and we tracked it down to a bad cat. Punched the cat out and vioala!!! POWER!! Obviously a little to much though.... The F*in Tranny blew on the interstate!!!!  :evil:  I think it's time to find a different trans shop and some aftermarket goodies. When I'm done, that sob will take 1000hp without even blinking! Yet another reason why I hate domestic auto transmissions....

What blew?

TurboGTU

I know that those 4t40s blow from the overdrive ,,but does anything else go even if you leave it in drive....IE...differential, bands, inputshaft, ect..I am thinking that I should stick with the 3t40 if nothings out there for the 4t60.

I've seen high friction bands, some costom stalled converters for my trans and some other performance goodies.

All I've seen between my trans and the 4t60 is that the 4t60 holds more engine torque but mine holds more gearbox torque....

here what I've found....
                           Weight lbs.  Engine Tq  Gearbox Tq   Gross Veh. Wt.
TH-125c (3t40)       161             200             416               5100
TH-440-t4 (4t60)     195            235             369               5181
4T60-E                   203            280             390               6400
4T65-E                   214            285             400               6400
4T80-E                   295            305             461               6800

Also the Torque converters are all the same diameter (9.64)but except some 4t65-E's some had 10.16. the 4t80-E has 10.43. Good luck trying to shoehorn the 4t80 in the TGP..and finding someting to controll the other E trannies.
Turbocharged 88 IMSA Beretta GTX <-dam stright.
90 ASC/McLaren Black TGP.

Powermaster slowed my progress like I was piloting the Queen Mary herself--

maximage

The wierd part about it is, I had no warning at all. I was going fine, stopped, and couldnt take off. No forward, no reverse, nothing. It was like it ran out of fluid, but was completely full. I think the internal pump may have blown.
90 TGP- Mods, yeah I have them...
90 DSM Turbo 5-speed
02 Beetle GLS

Look! I finally updated my sig!!

idbeast

No, it sounds like your OD clutchs burned and siezed themselfs together...
:drinking:  :drinking:  :drinking:  :drinking:  :drinking:
Jim W     AKA  Idbeast
04 Supercharged Nissan Frontier Crew Cab 4X4 in sandstone (Light Gold)!!!
Red 89 TGP (14.95 1/4 mile) Not any more...... coming with surprises in the very near future, Black 90 TGP (14.41 1/4 mile), White 90 Turbo STE (15.06 1/4 mile), and now my 2nd White 90 Turbo STE 89 Dodge Shadow ES Turbo

fatguy

Just by chance.....did you check the cv shaft?   I had basically the same problem with my TSTE.  I was waiting to get the money together for a tranny kit when I decided to check everything out.  The cv boots looked good, but the splines were stripped on the inner joint.
Corey McCarthy

Chris A

I agree with jim, especially since you were on the highway. There is a lot of heat in the OD especially if the power is up on your car. Just that little bit extra will push the OD clutch to the edge and seize it up. Basically the car is in OD and 1st gear at the same time, so you have a trans brake that won't let go!

Chris