Let's take the TGP LG5 to the next level of performance

[GangstGP]

I looked at the Raybestos catalog...and they have Graphitic clutches for the 4th clutch pack. The look promissing. Has anyone tried those? I looked at the 4th on the 4t60 and theres no room for larger packs and little room for more clutches. They are the size of the direct clutches(3rd) on my 3t40...which fried..and it had four for some reason. If raysbestos could make the Blue friction clutches for fourth that would be awsome,,even the Red Devil clutches. But the Graphitic like I said look like the best. How ever..I do think they have the Red Devils for the other clutch packs...I would think they also make the Blue ones for custom orders. Their bands are the best...so they say...they have Kevlar lining. They supply stock band for GM, Merce, and someone else?. So I would think they know their sh!t.  Heck..the make better friction meterial for the torque converters lock up clutch.

As far as poor shifting..you might have problems with your valve body. When I rebuild my transmission...Im going to run a transmission pressure guage along with a temp sensor. Bypassing the radiator and running the oil cooler by itself is said to cool down the transmission more.

How do you bypass the radiator? Just put another tranny cooler in front of everything? Thats an awesome idea if thats what you mean. I think its time to start looking for a nice shiny new aluminum one unless anyone could suggest a donor car to look in. I was thinking a bigger aux cooler. screw that, I almost want to ditch both and go with custom lines and shiny new cooler in front  :icon_eek:.

[z284pwr]

How do you bypass the radiator? Just put another tranny cooler in front of everything? Thats an awesome idea if thats what you mean. I think its time to start looking for a nice shiny new aluminum one unless anyone could suggest a donor car to look in. I was thinking a bigger aux cooler. screw that, I almost want to ditch both and go with custom lines and shiny new cooler in front  :icon_eek:.

Yes, exactly, an external cooler....here, example from our Trans-Am

Just get a pipe bender and bend your own lines, or cut them off just before the radiator, get some killer fittings and use hose.....and you are good to go, get a nice skinny long one and mount it just behind the front 2 grill openings, would work excellent, then mount a front mount intercooler just below it :laugh:

[GutlessSupreme]

how exactly is the radiator sectioned off? where is the coolant and where is the tranny fluid when it's filled?

[z284pwr]

how exactly is the radiator sectioned off? where is the coolant and where is the tranny fluid when it's filled?

I would assume the radiator is on the upper part and the trans fluid runs thru the bottom because the lines hook down at the bottom don't they?  The fill neck is all the way on the passenger side so I doubt it would be vertical :icon_neutral:

[TGPilot]

Are you asking about how does the tranny fluid flow through the radiator?

[GangstGP]

The fluid goes in through the top fitting snakes around in the rad, and out the bottom fitting. paid attention when I got my fluid flushed the other day ;).

[GutlessSupreme]

Are you asking about how does the tranny fluid flow through the radiator?

yes

[TGPilot]

Like the Gangsta said...it goes in and comes out. ;)

On the inside of the Rad is a cooling cell that is liquid to liquid in design. That is the most efficient way to cool a fluid is by using another fluid surrounding it to cool it down. Only problem is the size of the cooler in the radiator. Obviously you can not go too large with something on the inside of the rad end cap, but for the most part it works well.

Go to this webpage and it will show an OEM tranny cooler to give you an idea of what ours looks like. http://community.webshots.com/album/79730017iDGPGU

[GangstGP]

warm fluid heating up the tranny fluid? sounds like a dumb idea to me. try a fluid like cold air, or ice water maybe.

[TGPilot]

Do you understand the operating principles of an automatic transmission? Do you know what the optimum operating temperature is of an auto tranny to reduce wear and friction. An ice cold tranny will eat itself apart! :icon_cool:

[Prospeeder]

Do you understand the operating principles of an automatic transmission? Do you know what the optimum operating temperature is of an auto tranny to reduce wear and friction. An ice cold tranny will eat itself apart! :icon_cool:

Ya, theres a reason the trans fluid runs through the radiator, for faster warm ups and cooling durning idle. Like with engines, people think cooler is better, when actually wear and tear and some performance is lost if the engines too cold, not to mention gas mileage will drop.

[z284pwr]

Anyone that is out beating ANY car that is still cold and not at operating temperature is a dumb ass, that should be basic common sense to anyone that actually gives a damn about their car.  To cold is bad, to hot is bad. 

[GangstGP]

well since the heat generated to warm up the tranny is in the core of the tranny and not the core of the radiater; then the added cooling of another aftermarket cooler will be more than welcome.

[GangstGP]

get the tranny warm one time in the morning, should stay warm enough for errand running all day.

[never enough power]

it was about 1400 for everything that i needed.  that includes air filter, silicone connectors, turbo, actuator, and accessories.  its being a pain in the ass, but it should be worth the hassle when i finish it in a couple of days.  for right now im just gonna run about 9 psi to see if the tranny will hold it, plus the engine has 199,000 miles on it.