TGP on a diet

GangstGP · December 28, 2005, 12:21:27 PM

Mine is almost 4000 lbs but I always forget the exact weight.its like 38-something.

mclaren18psi · December 31, 2005, 02:53:59 PM

i had a cage for autox but im going more streetcar drag now so im manly using a cage for the seats as kirky alumniums have to be suported and with my new set up i hope to need one soon as my local track is anal on many levels one being that require door bars when you run full fiberglass doors
im tryin to get my pictures hosted now so i can post my current turbo pics that are rought and far from complete but the same ill be posting them
andy

fwdjarvis3 · January 04, 2006, 12:05:37 PM

im looking to get mine to around 2500 or less if possible, for dirt track racing

GangstGP · January 04, 2006, 12:28:46 PM

now that I would like to see. these cars would be great for dirt track. keep us posted, I'm sure everyone here would be delighted to see another TGP turned race car.

fwdjarvis3 · January 04, 2006, 08:28:19 PM

will do, i think a 3.4dohc 5spd on the w-body platform will be very fast, i plan on boosting it with a turbo off my buddy's blown up supra, has front mount intercooler too. Would that be too over the top in a 2500lbs car?
I'll be sure and post pics of us hacking and gutting the gp. Like i said if anybody needs some parts just come on down and pull it. Less work for me.

GangstGP · January 07, 2006, 04:33:32 PM

Quote from: fwdjarvis3will do, i think a 3.4dohc 5spd on the w-body platform will be very fast, i plan on boosting it with a turbo off my buddy's blown up supra, has front mount intercooler too. Would that be too over the top in a 2500lbs car?
I'll be sure and post pics of us hacking and gutting the gp. Like i said if anybody needs some parts just come on down and pull it. Less work for me.

wait, I thought you were planning a 3.1 turbo race car tgp.

fwdjarvis3 · January 07, 2006, 07:58:00 PM

I would but the 3.1 has it limits and i really like the hp in the dohc. I have a 3.1 in the sunbird but no boost, it was fast but handled like a tank, body dipped too much in the corners, more bang for the buck with the 3.4dohc swap, boosted especially.

GangstGP · January 07, 2006, 09:19:00 PM

there was the 88 Beretta concept car twin turbo 3.4. saw an article one time, I think it was a w-body. the thing was pretty bad ass I guess. If you could build one like that.......I guess that would be cool.

mfewtrail · January 07, 2006, 10:10:49 PM

Quote from: GangstGPthere was the 88 Beretta concept car twin turbo 3.4. saw an article one time, I think it was a w-body. the thing was pretty bad ass I guess. If you could build one like that.......I guess that would be cool.

That Beretta had a 3.4 liter pushrod engine in it and it wasn't a W-body, it was a L-body like all of those berettas. "TimG" on the other board has a turbocharged 3.4 DOHC in his Monte Carlo...stock engine + turbo kit basically and made 325whp and right at 350 ft-lbs of torque to the wheels.

GangstGP · January 08, 2006, 12:21:30 AM

oh, yea I wasn't sure if it was even a w. That guy Tim, what turbo kit did he have for his Monte?

mfewtrail · January 08, 2006, 12:33:34 AM

Quote from: GangstGPoh, yea I wasn't sure if it was even a w. That guy Tim, what turbo kit did he have for his Monte?

Custom w/ a T04E turbocharger, you can search his screenname on the w-body board and find out all the info on it. He has a really nice setup. 8)

GangstGP · January 08, 2006, 01:08:03 AM

yea, I just spent the last hour looking through everywhere and only saw like 2 pics of the exterior . no motor pics, nothin :? oh well, was that car fast?

mfewtrail · January 08, 2006, 01:32:36 AM

Quote from: GangstGPyea, I just spent the last hour looking through everywhere and only saw like 2 pics of the exterior . no motor pics, nothin :? oh well, was that car fast?

He hasn't ran it at the track in current form as far as I know. I would expect that his car could run well into the 12's with drag radials or slicks on there. I know of a L67 swapped '95 Grand Prix(should be very similar in weight to the Monte Carlo) that had a bit over 260whp and ran high 12's @104-105mph for what it's worth.

EDIT: here's his cardomain page...he has two nicely modded cars(that S2000 was strong enough to run low 12's on his old setup...he ran equivalent to 8.17@91.66mph at sea level in the 1/8th mile) . 8)

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/719379

dbtk2 · January 08, 2006, 01:12:06 PM

Quote from: mfewtrail
Quote from: GangstGPyea, I just spent the last hour looking through everywhere and only saw like 2 pics of the exterior . no motor pics, nothin :? oh well, was that car fast?

He hasn't ran it at the track in current form as far as I know. I would expect that his car could run well into the 12's with drag radials or slicks on there. I know of a L67 swapped '95 Grand Prix(should be very similar in weight to the Monte Carlo) that had a bit over 260whp and ran high 12's @104-105mph for what it's worth.

EDIT: here's his cardomain page...he has two nicely modded cars(that S2000 was strong enough to run low 12's on his old setup...he ran equivalent to 8.17@91.66mph at sea level in the 1/8th mile) . 8)

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/719379

The powerband will have a big effect on your times, so just because you peak at X hp doesn't mean it will run the same time as another car that peaks at that same power. However, if hes making 325whp & 350wtq. then I'd say he should have no problems breaking into the 12's. My dads GTP ran a 12.08 with 315whp/365wtq, so since his car is similar weight and power 12.5's should be cake.

Shawn

mfewtrail · January 08, 2006, 01:32:22 PM

Quote from: dbtk2

The powerband will have a big effect on your times, so just because you peak at X hp doesn't mean it will run the same time as another car that peaks at that same power. However, if hes making 325whp & 350wtq. then I'd say he should have no problems breaking into the 12's. My dads GTP ran a 12.08 with 315whp/365wtq, so since his car is similar weight and power 12.5's should be cake.

Shawn

I already know that.....is your dad's GTP lightened? If not, it's gotta be at least 150-200lbs over what Tim's monte weighs. The monte ran 9.5 @ 78 mph at a higher elevation track which converted to 9.10 sec @ 81.52 mph back when he dyno'd 263whp....street tire run of course. That 325whp was on 10psi and pump gas...I'm sure that T04E could pump out a good bit more than that once Tim gets it tuned more/does more supporting mods.