Front cartridge removal

Started by TLOC, February 26, 2006, 02:13:12 PM

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TLOC

Factory service manual says to remove hood to remove/pull front strut cartridge. Can anyone confirm this or have pulled them with the hood on, I thought maybe remove the hood louver and pull it through there...T

Tooky

Don't need to pull the hood.  I just did mine 2 weeks ago.  It's close but they will pop right out.
Josh Straub
1990 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix, GT2871R 475HP-capacity turbo, built 4T60, 28# Injectors, DIY Ostrich realtime chip tune, JeffM Crossover, Cold A/C, BoostValve.com manual controller @ 14 PSI.  200,000 mi factory original motor.  Best time on T25 @ 11 PSI: 14.78 @ 93 MPH.
1991 GMC Syclone: 11.79 @ 114 MPH. Stock with PT51 turbo plus SMC alcohol injection and tuning, 24 PSI

TGPilot

You need the W-body strut cartridge removal tool. Leave the car on the ground and follow the instructions in the removal kit.  8)

GangstGP

The tgp has awesome front suspension. If you get the right struts it will handle so good. I put on Monroe G-Force the other day.
daily driver: 1990 Turbo Grand Prix 180k miles
backup car: 1990 Turbo Grand Prix 118k miles
spare parts: TGP motor and tranny from a red '89

TGPilot

KYB GR-2 are the only cartridges you will want... 8)

Invasion1

Quote from: TGPilotKYB GR-2 are the only cartridges you will want... 8)

True Dat!!!!!! 8)

GangstGP

The front of my car is so stiff, if I were to push down on the front fender enough to move the suspension, it would bend the fender.

basically you have to drive it hard just to get it to move. you could jump on the hood and it probably wouldnt move :lol:  I dont even know if KYB has a stiffer strut than this one :wink:  They might :?
daily driver: 1990 Turbo Grand Prix 180k miles
backup car: 1990 Turbo Grand Prix 118k miles
spare parts: TGP motor and tranny from a red '89

TGPilot

Well there is a difference between ride comfort with sportability, and being rock solid to a point where you bounce down the road. The later is not my idea of a suspension.

Being too stiff will actually pull performance from the suspension and handling just like if the shock was blown. :wink:  8)

GangstGP

That was my Gabriels. Bouncy.

When I got these G-Force that went away.

I am sure KYBs are good enough. The G-force are da BOMB !
daily driver: 1990 Turbo Grand Prix 180k miles
backup car: 1990 Turbo Grand Prix 118k miles
spare parts: TGP motor and tranny from a red '89

SpeedDemon

Quote from: TookyCatDon't need to pull the hood.  I just did mine 2 weeks ago.  It's close but they will pop right out.

I just did mine also. Use your head to hold the hood up while you replace it strut. And be sure to wash your hair afterwards. :wink:
1990 TGP: stock minus the K&N air filter and high flow cat
1999 Oldsmobile Aurora: What a step up from my 95 Monte Carlo
1967 Plymouth Belvedere II: 318 c.i., Flowmaster Exhaust, and in deserate need of new rear tires.

Tooky

Guys I did the KYB GR-2s per site recommendation, to replace my thoroughly wasted stock 175,000mi struts, but I gotta be honest, there was not much improvement.  I guess I don't notice much of a difference?  When I hit small bumps the car doesn't shake as much, but that's about it.  What am I supposed to look for?  I have never replaced struts before.

I also was disappointed the KYB's use a strange hex socket in the top of the strut instead of the GM star that the stock struts (and my W-Body Strut Tool Kit) had.  What's worse, was the KYB's strut cartridge hex socket's soft aluminum easily deformed as I tightened up the large nuts around it.  Factory torque spec on those nuts is something insane like 82 FT-LB!!!  I never would have gotten close to that, so I just stopped where it was and left it.  Seems like cheap foreign manufacturing. :(
Josh Straub
1990 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix, GT2871R 475HP-capacity turbo, built 4T60, 28# Injectors, DIY Ostrich realtime chip tune, JeffM Crossover, Cold A/C, BoostValve.com manual controller @ 14 PSI.  200,000 mi factory original motor.  Best time on T25 @ 11 PSI: 14.78 @ 93 MPH.
1991 GMC Syclone: 11.79 @ 114 MPH. Stock with PT51 turbo plus SMC alcohol injection and tuning, 24 PSI

GangstGP

the strut tool for these cars are hard to find for cheap. I had friends borrow them from work.  and if you know how to do it is really quick and easy. the quicker the easier in fact. if you can get the new one in before it expands, no messin with the hood or nothin.
daily driver: 1990 Turbo Grand Prix 180k miles
backup car: 1990 Turbo Grand Prix 118k miles
spare parts: TGP motor and tranny from a red '89