car doesnt like heated o2s??

Started by scott0999, December 09, 2006, 06:20:58 PM

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TGPilot

Quote from: GangstGP on December 16, 2006, 12:55:52 PM
once again, I have been here WAY before you got this gig.

Do you really think I have only been turning wrenches on cars, involved with and degreed in electronics, mechanics, turbo and supercharger applications, fabrication, racing, crew chief on numerous cars, and motorcycles just since I took over this forum or since I bought the red TGP from Waskie 4 or 5 years ago?

How old are you? Unless you are older than 27 I have been working on cars, trucks, motorcyles, and go-karts, and building engines for all of them since BEFORE you were born!

Talking about high current applications like 5,000+ watt stereo systems and comparing that to what a cars ECM, sensor and control wiring, and/or normal light wiring needs is like comparing an apple to an M-1 Abrams Tank! There is no relation!!

By all means scan and post your instruction manual showing that all car electronics needs to have a ground wire that is equal to or less than 18". Then we will call Chrysler, GM, Ford, Haltech, Motech, Autronic, BMEP, and any other aftermarket ECU company I deal with and tell them their electrical wiring is completely wrong and it needs to be changed because of the 18" rule.

I will argue all day long with you about a thin wire carring the same "signal" as a heavy gauge wire. Now I do know the difference between a "signal" and a "current load" and again you are not comparing the same things. Put 800amps of current through a 12 gauge wire and it will help keep your hands warm in the winter! But run a 5mvDc square wave signal through that 12 gauge wire and it can be 10 feet long and still have the same strength at the other end!

To the new people and current members of the forum...I hate ignorance and someone who pushes ignorance as fact. It happens alot on other forums and I will not have it on my forum. This is the only reason I am banning GangstGP because he has been warned NUMEROUS TIMES about this garbage!

Sorry to have this in the open areas of the forum...but I am damned tired of it!

Larry M

Wow.  I am really impressed with your experience as listed in post above.  Would you plaese email me all of your knowledge.  At least I know where to locate an apparent expert.

Though I won't PUSH bad information, I may occasionally err.  LOL
Since car sat in a garage for 8 years, being rarely moved, time had the opportunity to destroy my crossover, I'd imagine at the bellows.  Exhaust fumes abound in my passenger compartment, when I accelerate substantially. Heater setting is worse about fumes than Vent setting. I always use Vent setting anyway.  A/C should get repaired next spring, and my leaking windshield needs attention, though sunroof drains are clear and seal there is not ideal. I'll wax the car in the Spring and it should be good for most, if not all, of the summer.

I'd like to know how much loss in performance can be quantified with my a defective crossover pipe. Are there any quantifiable numbers available? If possible, please compare effects and pressures and/or pertinent temperatures at turbo and intake and cylinder.

Also, when building chips, do designers compensate for EGR function providing cooling effect at intake?

Who has the best replacement crossover pipe available?  What are all of the options and their various costs?

Stock at dealer about $165 plus another $165 to install. I might just do that because it may be Spring before I can drive to ideal repair location. I could get any crossover installed though I won't be doing that labor myself.

TGPilot

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Quote from: Larry M on December 17, 2006, 09:37:47 AM
Wow.  I am really impressed with your experience as listed in post above.  Would you plaese email me all of your knowledge.  At least I know where to locate an apparent expert.

I do not know if you are being sarcastic here or not. I have NEVER posed as an expert in anything. I can run circles around some...and take a humble seat with others. Just like this last week in Vancouver being personally trained by the BEST diesel tranny EXPERT in the world. Companies like Chrysler, GM, and Ford have all been to his shop taking notes on how to improve there production trannies.

Quote from: Larry M on December 17, 2006, 09:37:47 AMThough I won't PUSH bad information, I may occasionally err.  LOL

There have been many times that I have written something in error. I am NOT perfect nor do I pose to be. But when people consistantly post BS as factual when myself and NUMEROUS other people know is a load of crap I won't stand for it. I do not want people who are new to TGP/TSTE to think these cars are fireballs because of the purple ignition wire as (incorrectly stated by Gangstgp), or that they need to add 20 lbs in 2 gauge wire to have a proper ground (incorrectly stated by Gangstgp), wires inside the gas tank being poor and them melting (incorrectly stated by Gangstgp), telling people to USE the purple ignition wire as a power source for the heated 02s although he had already stated they were to small a gauge for just the duty of energizing the solenoid at start.

The list goes on and on and frankly when someone new comes on the site searching for issues with the TGP/TSTE I do not want them becoming completely mis-informed by BS as factual posts.

Now for the rest of what you are asking about...by all means post your questions accordingly and they will be answered. Scott's thread has been high-jacked long enough.

My apologies Scott that your thread ended up being a battle-ground! :icon_redface:

Larry M

Although I tried to inject a bit of humor, I was not being facetious or sarcastic.  I respect your ablities which are obviously extensive, I know that nobody knows everything though.  There is a lot to learn about TGP's and this is probably the best place for me to do that, unless undercar.  : )

TGPilot

#19
Ok no worries. Maybe one of the emoticons after the sentence will help to decifer your joke or serious-ness. ;)

I want to run a forum full of FACTS not BS that someone might have heard or read on another forum by god knows who and have that stated as fact. Just because it is on the internet does not make it reality. I have bit my tongue with him for at least a year about his posts and I had finally had it. Luke and Dave will verify that I have posted in the moderator area a few times and Dave calmed me down to give him another chance.


Invasion1

Quote from: TGPilot on December 17, 2006, 05:12:38 PM
Dave will verify that as I have posted in the moderator area a few times and Dave calmed me down to give him another chance.

MANY Times!!

but problem solved now