NEED HELP!

grinders_18 · May 07, 2007, 04:37:46 AM

No, I have the keys. The problem is I had to leave my car up at Nicks, which is almost 3 hours from my place...and since this weekend up there I locked my keys in there, and then got them out lol...I'm extra cautious to take the keys and lock it without thinking. Hmmmmm...I was also suggested that it was possibly bad gas? Since I hadn't used that gas before, maybe that was a problem? But it wouldn't explain why your cars still run while you fill them up with the same gas....

And then a guy at O'Reilleys Auto Parts, and a guy at work, both suggested maybe the neutral safety switch? Can anyone give any insight as to how that could be a problem? What happens when that goes bad or breaks?

R Dubya · May 07, 2007, 05:43:37 AM

I don't think the engine would even turn over if you NSS was bad. if the wires are old its time to change them anyways, see where that gets ya. I'd go with Delco brand stock wires, I don't have the pn# but they are readily available, same as the N/A 3.1 IIRC.

grinders_18 · May 07, 2007, 06:02:35 AM

The thing is they're like 4 months old. Hell with it lol if they're bad I'm just going with standard wires this time...then when they go bad again lol I save money.

TGP Nick · May 07, 2007, 11:22:53 AM

Yeah it really seems like bad wires to me, Kyle. If the NSS is bad, it wouldn't even crank...

grinders_18 · May 07, 2007, 12:32:12 PM

Alrighty...my dad chimed in with maybe the timing skipped? I don't know much of anything about that though...Nick I wonder if there's a way I can mail you my set of keys and a set of plug wires?

Prospeeder · May 07, 2007, 04:46:07 PM

hey also check the plug in for the Ignition module, (DIS) mine somehow was getting pushed but the oil drain line for the turbo and i had to ziptie it on, and the car would have spark, but not correctly, so no fireing at all, just outright died at one point, so defintly check that

TGP Nick · May 07, 2007, 06:56:27 PM

Quote from: grinders_18 on May 07, 2007, 12:32:12 PM
Alrighty...my dad chimed in with maybe the timing skipped? I don't know much of anything about that though...Nick I wonder if there's a way I can mail you my set of keys and a set of plug wires?

Yeah- if you could mail/ship me a set of keys, I could try to start it once it has been completely dry for a couple days- if it starts, then it will save ya the trip with the flatbed! Oh btw I had to wire it and cover the window opening with a rag- it was raining this evening- just thought I'd let ya know.

Let me know what you wanna do Kyle.

grinders_18 · May 08, 2007, 05:31:48 AM

I appreciate it, Nick! Thanks alot man! I owe you for all the help...I'll get back to you when I wake up later on. Just got off work so...When I get back from my new car shopping lol. Trading in the Camaro possibly...considering a 2000 Monte Carlo SS non S/C. Should be nice! So I'll get back to you soon!

TGP Nick · May 08, 2007, 11:37:39 AM

Alrighty let me know Kyle.

TGP Nick · May 14, 2007, 07:19:52 PM

Hey Kyle- I got the keys in the mail today. I put the battery charger on your TGP for 2 hours, and it still refuses to start....
What should we do now?

TGP Nick · May 14, 2007, 08:33:46 PM

After charging it, it turns over strong now, but still refuses to fire.... any ideas?

Prospeeder · May 14, 2007, 11:11:00 PM

did u check out the ignition module plug? fuel pressure? Compression? theres alot of things that can go wrong, maybe find some1 with a scan tool or a car u can swap parts

sleeperred90tgp · May 15, 2007, 05:32:56 AM

When are you going to check the crank sensor. Sounds like you have checked most everything else.

Jud

grinders_18 · May 15, 2007, 11:09:41 AM

As stated before, the CPS has been replaced...along with the ICM, and yes there is fuel pressure, assumed compression as we did not test it, however there is gas and oxygen and spark in the cylinder, so even a backfire would make sense. We did the paperclip method, here you stick a paperclip into the disgnostic port, and nothing came up. All clean.

R Dubya · May 15, 2007, 02:40:39 PM

just because you replaced the electronics does not mean they are functioning properly, thats why the remanufacturers offer warranty!! My bet is that the spark is weak.

Remove a plug and have someone turn it over. Hold the plug with something that has rubber on the handles so you don't get zapped. If it sparks when its not near metal thats a good sign. Then bring it closer to metal and see if it still sparks. I'm betting ICM or CS.