5 speed swap thread

Started by killinprixs, January 25, 2008, 06:04:10 PM

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killinprixs

i thought barettas were W-bodys... so i pretty much need everything out of a Grand Prix.  Also i have a 5 speed sitting at a friends house , how can i identify what it is?  Will anything work off the baretta? shifter stuff, intermediate shaft mount, axles... ?  Thanks in advance.

TGP Nick

#16
Haha nvm my response didnt really make sense.  :laugh:  I meant to say on the first page that no a beretta trans will not work in a TGP.
Nick
1989 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix- LG5 - 4T60HD
2008 Ford Ranger XLT- 2.3 DOHC I-4 - 5MT
2012 Nissan Altima SR coupe- 3.5 V6 - 6MT

killinprixs

well im sick of these crappy automatics,  Turbosedan already said the trans is different so obviously im not going to use it.  Ill just rape that 89 white GP and take everything.  thanks for help for now im sure ill need more. 

patgizz

Quote from: grandprixagain on May 05, 2008, 04:57:35 PM
well im sick of these crappy automatics,  Turbosedan already said the trans is different so obviously im not going to use it.  Ill just rape that 89 white GP and take everything.  thanks for help for now im sure ill need more. 

take EVERYTHING you can even if you think you may not need it.  make sure to get the simple forgettable things like the console bracket.

you will not regret the manual swap,  i just did mine and it is a blast to drive.
Red 1990 5 speed TGP:
HM282, Spec Stage 3 clutch, FFP Pulley + Dogbones, JeffM Crossover, 8mm Accel Race wires, AC Delete, PM3 Delete, Magnaflow cat, 34MM front sway bar w/ poly bushings, Drilled/Slotted rotors, KYB's, F+R STB's, and a bunch of other crap i can't remember.

bake82

Quote from: patgizz on May 11, 2008, 04:01:20 PM
Quote from: grandprixagain on May 05, 2008, 04:57:35 PM
well im sick of these crappy automatics,  Turbosedan already said the trans is different so obviously im not going to use it.  Ill just rape that 89 white GP and take everything.  thanks for help for now im sure ill need more. 

take EVERYTHING you can even if you think you may not need it.  make sure to get the simple forgettable things like the console bracket.

you will not regret the manual swap,  i just did mine and it is a blast to drive.

Thats REALLY REALY GOOD advice...also don't forget about the rubber gromnet around the shifter cables as they go through the floor board.

but EVERYTHING 5 spd related...take it!
Kyle


1988 Cutlass Supreme, White/Black Leather, 3.1 Turbo 5 spd, coming soon  95k miles

killinprixs

#20
my buddy had this thing sitting around, can anyone identify if it?  Im pretty sure its not a 282 and it says 91 GP in marker on the case.   If any of you 5 speed guys know what it is, that would be great.  thanks



GutlessSupreme

That is definitely not a 282 nor any W-body trans. Could be the Isuzu trans..
-Tony
gtsdurango.net
'04 Dakota SLT Quad Cab V8 AWD/4x4 - current daily
'90 Turbo Grand Prix STE - Crane H260 Cam, Getrag 282 Swap, 1.6 Rockers, Homebrewn Mildly Ported/Polished Heads/Intakes, Intrax Front Lowering Springs, KYB GR2s, 34mm Sway Bar, CS FSTB, AWeb RSTB, ES Poly Sway Bar Bushings, Cooper Cobra 245 - I'm working on it...
'92 Gutless Supreme SL - Dead
'90 Turbo Grand Prix - RIP 6-15-05

GutlessSupreme

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/063783.html#p1

yea, that's the Isuzu trans. Definitely no good behind a turbo 3.1. Could be out of a multitude of cars.. j-body, l, n, a... mount's on the wrong side for a Fiero, so not that. But yea, you don't want it.
-Tony
gtsdurango.net
'04 Dakota SLT Quad Cab V8 AWD/4x4 - current daily
'90 Turbo Grand Prix STE - Crane H260 Cam, Getrag 282 Swap, 1.6 Rockers, Homebrewn Mildly Ported/Polished Heads/Intakes, Intrax Front Lowering Springs, KYB GR2s, 34mm Sway Bar, CS FSTB, AWeb RSTB, ES Poly Sway Bar Bushings, Cooper Cobra 245 - I'm working on it...
'92 Gutless Supreme SL - Dead
'90 Turbo Grand Prix - RIP 6-15-05

killinprixs

thanks a lot man, as soon as i saw the big mount on top i kinda had the feeling it was crap.  Im definately getting everything out of this 2.8 5 speed GP , as far as i know it definatly has a 282... thanks for the link thats exactly what ive been looking for...

cobracmdr

Yep Gutless is right it is out of a fiero but can't hold the power of a 3.1 turbo? But I respectfully disagree! There are many guys putting a small block chevy on those things with no problems. 

either way a 2.8 5 speed is a 282, my 88 gpse is a 5 speed with a 282.  Have fun and don't forget about a retune ;)

Ken

1989 Turbo Grand Prix - missed very much!!!!
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 M6 12.01 @117 mph - Inferno Orange Metallic, long tubes, x pipe, Cat back, all 3" pipe 321 SS, vararam intake, LC-1, diy tune
01 Grand Prix GTP - 3.4 pulley, plog, k&n drop in, u-bend & resonator delete, tuned
03 Suzuki SV650N - zx10 shock, racetech springs/emulators, streetfighter

killinprixs

Im not sure if this trans came from a fiero, i dont want it my buddy can keep it for his fiero... it would be more fun than his th125... 
Cant wait to retune this car... especially with 10# wastegate... BTW when are you bringing that beast to the track?

GutlessSupreme

Quote from: cobracmdr on May 13, 2008, 12:43:17 PM
Yep Gutless is right it is out of a fiero but can't hold the power of a 3.1 turbo? But I respectfully disagree! There are many guys putting a small block chevy on those things with no problems. 

either way a 2.8 5 speed is a 282, my 88 gpse is a 5 speed with a 282.  Have fun and don't forget about a retune ;)

Ken

No, I said it wasn't from a Fiero. You may disagree, but so far as I know, few to none are using the Isuzu 5 speed behind small blocks. The Getrag/Muncie 282 yes, but not the Isuzu.
-Tony
gtsdurango.net
'04 Dakota SLT Quad Cab V8 AWD/4x4 - current daily
'90 Turbo Grand Prix STE - Crane H260 Cam, Getrag 282 Swap, 1.6 Rockers, Homebrewn Mildly Ported/Polished Heads/Intakes, Intrax Front Lowering Springs, KYB GR2s, 34mm Sway Bar, CS FSTB, AWeb RSTB, ES Poly Sway Bar Bushings, Cooper Cobra 245 - I'm working on it...
'92 Gutless Supreme SL - Dead
'90 Turbo Grand Prix - RIP 6-15-05

killinprixs

oh well the point is to be safe than sorry, if your going through the trouble, dont use isuzu, the name says it all... haha

cobracmdr

Quote from: GutlessSupreme on May 13, 2008, 04:11:51 PM
Quote from: cobracmdr on May 13, 2008, 12:43:17 PM
Yep Gutless is right it is out of a fiero but can't hold the power of a 3.1 turbo? But I respectfully disagree! There are many guys putting a small block chevy on those things with no problems. 

either way a 2.8 5 speed is a 282, my 88 gpse is a 5 speed with a 282.  Have fun and don't forget about a retune ;)

Ken

No, I said it wasn't from a Fiero. You may disagree, but so far as I know, few to none are using the Isuzu 5 speed behind small blocks. The Getrag/Muncie 282 yes, but not the Isuzu.

My Bad!  Your right no isuzu!  I should read better! :laugh:

1989 Turbo Grand Prix - missed very much!!!!
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 M6 12.01 @117 mph - Inferno Orange Metallic, long tubes, x pipe, Cat back, all 3" pipe 321 SS, vararam intake, LC-1, diy tune
01 Grand Prix GTP - 3.4 pulley, plog, k&n drop in, u-bend & resonator delete, tuned
03 Suzuki SV650N - zx10 shock, racetech springs/emulators, streetfighter

cobracmdr

Quote from: grandprixagain on May 13, 2008, 01:02:30 PM
Im not sure if this trans came from a fiero, i dont want it my buddy can keep it for his fiero... it would be more fun than his th125... 
Cant wait to retune this car... especially with 10# wastegate... BTW when are you bringing that beast to the track?

Hopefully this Friday for the half track.  Got my wideband all in and integrated into the ecm/tuner pro.   I took today, tomorrow and Friday off from work so I can tune the car.......with Adam's help of course!

Ken

1989 Turbo Grand Prix - missed very much!!!!
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 M6 12.01 @117 mph - Inferno Orange Metallic, long tubes, x pipe, Cat back, all 3" pipe 321 SS, vararam intake, LC-1, diy tune
01 Grand Prix GTP - 3.4 pulley, plog, k&n drop in, u-bend & resonator delete, tuned
03 Suzuki SV650N - zx10 shock, racetech springs/emulators, streetfighter