My TGP Cavalier project...Pics!!!

domenicz24 · April 23, 2003, 02:16:31 PM

Well, Curtis Walker (TurboZ24) and I finally got the heads/bored block back from the machine shop and the 3400 crank. Got the engine back to his garage and started putting the engine together to get it ready for the crossover. But lo and behold, my rebuild kit didnt come with the oil pump...I guess they forgot to package it. In any case, most of the shortblock is together minus the pushrods, gonna order those tomorrow. I'll post more pics once more of the parts are together on it.

Here's the link cause the pics aren't showing:

http://photos.yahoo.com/domenicz24

RedZMonte · April 23, 2003, 02:24:40 PM

Looks fricking sweet! so you have a 3400 crank, ported heads, any other goodies? (I am failry new to the board so i havn't been able to read all the topics.) the day my TGP needs a rebuild is the going to suck.. i like to spend money and it isn't going to be pretty (on my wallet atleast)

BTW are thoes Stock pistons? I am doing headwork and a cam in my lumina (L67) and I have a hookup on Ceramic coating pistions if your interested. Thoes ARP headbolts are Beefy looking!

BTW does 330ft/lbs TQ count as "Got Tq?" :lol:

Shane

domenicz24 · April 23, 2003, 02:31:14 PM

Lol...330ft/lbs is not nearly enough! j/k.....330ft/lbs is awesome! Thats what I call power. the whole engine is a comlpetely stock TGP engine (pistons, cam, rods,) except the crank....the old one had a spun bearing so curtis walker actually had a spare 3400 crank sitting and I used that one. everything will be stock TGP components except the intercooler, crossover/downpipe, and yes, a T3 instead of the T25. The T25 parts were more expensive than the T3's believe it or not and the T3 has more applications suited for it. But mind you I had one designed for quick spooling and boost at or below 1800rpm. So all in all it will be fairly quick, and that's all I was really looking for, a quick cavalier that runs low 14's and I can still drive to the store and get groceries. Fast, efficient (still gets just about same mpg as stock 3.1), and reliable.

RedZMonte · April 23, 2003, 02:40:17 PM

Quote from: domenicz24Lol...330ft/lbs is not nearly enough! j/k.....330ft/lbs is awesome! Thats what I call power. the whole engine is a comlpetely stock TGP engine (pistons, cam, rods,) except the crank....the old one had a spun bearing so curtis walker actually had a spare 3400 crank sitting and I used that one. everything will be stock TGP components except the intercooler, crossover/downpipe, and yes, a T3 instead of the T25. The T25 parts were more expensive than the T3's believe it or not and the T3 has more applications suited for it. But mind you I had one designed for quick spooling and boost at or below 1800rpm. So all in all it will be fairly quick, and that's all I was really looking for, a quick cavalier that runs low 14's and I can still drive to the store and get groceries. Fast, efficient (still gets just about same mpg as stock 3.1), and reliable.

I am kind of retarded when it comes to these things but if you put in a 3400 crank isn't that "Stroking" the motor? if so that should help spool that T3.

The ~330+tq is my lumina's currant stance. once the cam and head work goes in along w/ a 2.75" pulley it should be much much more :twisted:

Shane

domenicz24 · April 23, 2003, 02:44:34 PM

Your Lumina sounds awesome man, I would like to see it run one day. The only other fast lumina I saw putting out that much power is a supercharged lumina, it was red, and putting out mid 12 second passes on the quarter mile.

As for the 3400 crank, it isnt stroking the engine. The 3400 is an overbored 3.1L. The 3.1L is a stroked 2.8L.

Many people get confused by it so its no problem.

RedZMonte · April 23, 2003, 02:54:14 PM

Quote from: domenicz24The only other fast lumina I saw putting out that much power is a supercharged lumina, it was red, and putting out mid 12 second passes on the quarter mile.

That would be Tom Wright from Wichita. he is a cool guy, SMART as hell too. He actually found my motor for me in Wichita. that was a FAST BIATCH!

I am going to laugh if my TGP is the fastest of all my cars. it will have the smallest displacement of all of them. I am in the process of truboing my 1995 Monte Z34 (3.4L DOHC).

Shane

visusens · April 23, 2003, 02:54:29 PM

I am curious, are you going to use the ecm system from the TGP as well with your combo?

domenicz24 · April 23, 2003, 03:02:01 PM

yes sir, the TGP ECM will be used. It's basically going to be the same cavalier that turboZ24 initially had, his red turbo cavalier....just different turbo.

Black Pheonix · April 23, 2003, 06:27:11 PM

14's? Chipped it should run 12's i should think, with the bored heads and all. Assuming you can get traction on those small of tires wiht that many horses at the wheels. I've been thinking about doing this myself. I imagine this car of yours should be pretty sweet. If your ever in Iowa with it look me up.

domenicz24 · April 23, 2003, 06:41:28 PM

that's just it, I am only going to run 9-10psi boost at MAX. I will not go any higher. When I originally designed plans for it I designed for it to stay as almost stock as possible because efficiency and reliability is what I look for. I dont want the fastest cavalier, I just want a fast and quick cavalier that I can drive daily and get groceries, etc...and still outrun those Z28's! (if not then just give them a run for their money! :) ) But I am not building it to go out there hunting for race, I built it with having a piece of mind that when some guy wants to rev at me, I wont hesitate to run him. Just fast and quick is all I want.
:D

And hey, give me some credit, I like think my 225/50/16 tires and wheels aren't that small! :lol:

Black Pheonix · April 23, 2003, 06:50:16 PM

Well blowing the engine would kind of suck, when you get it running let me know how it goes, i am interested in how much work a swap like this involves, good luck

1trucavalier · April 24, 2003, 10:30:27 AM

you and adler are so lucky who better to have around to help/work on your motor than curtis! thats freaking scweet!

domenicz24 · April 24, 2003, 10:45:31 AM

I am very lucky to have curtis live in my city. As for Adler, he enlisted the help of one of his friends in building his 2.2L 2-stage nitrous pontiac sunfire. nonetheless with some consultation from Curtis. But yeah, curtis is a very smart guy.

1trucavalier · April 25, 2003, 11:48:54 AM

i am sure with that motor and about a 3-400lbs weight difference vs our w-bodies and 5-speed you should easily run high twelves to no more than 13.5's without problem. GL!

Black Pheonix · April 25, 2003, 03:52:24 PM

gotta agree with 1trucavalier there. Cavalier's have 16's on them? Bty isn't a 5sp na 3.1 1989-91 faster than a tgp to begin with?