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Started by Ice Dragon, November 28, 2004, 12:35:44 AM

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Ice Dragon

Glad I found you guys

hope this is the right place :roll:

we just got an 04 GT-1

well i don't have to tell you what it's missing

any way i thought - hey why not a turbo-

guess what my wife siad :lol:

so- i see most of this is for the stock older GPs that had Turbos. If this is a good place to start and mod in  a trubo let me know.

any ideas and directions will be great.

glad to be here

dave

SpeedDemon

You have the 3800 engine right? I don't think they sell any turbo kits for that engine (although I may be wrong. Someone will correct me later if I am). The best thing to do (and probably the easiest) is put on the supercharger from a gtp (you can usually find them on E-Bay). That would be a direct bolt on. You can also check out //www.clubgp.com for more info on the newer Grand Prix.
1990 TGP: stock minus the K&N air filter and high flow cat
1999 Oldsmobile Aurora: What a step up from my 95 Monte Carlo
1967 Plymouth Belvedere II: 318 c.i., Flowmaster Exhaust, and in deserate need of new rear tires.

dbtk2

90 Maroon GP STE 3.1 I/C Turbo - SOLD!  :(
14.695 @ 94.49 w/2.228 60'
99 Green GP GT
9.75:1|K&N|160 tstat|no cat/ubend/res|ALT UD|Shift Kit|XPZ cam|Ported M90/TB/LIM/Heads|Powertuned|Pacesetters|42lb/hr|Stg 2 I/C|MPS|2.45"|ELEC WP|Zex 75/100/125|Walbro|ZZP IS|15/16"|AR103|Rollmaster|8 rib|MLS .052|ARP Head Studs|Billet FP|Alum Cradle
11.9912 @ 112.99 w/1.729 60', 347whp/417wtq on 93 octane/mustang dyno.

no1kicker

I think Intense has a turbo kit going for $3000.  I also think either them or ZZP was working on a M90 kit for $1000.  And don't forget the CSC as well.  I would check at www.clubgp.com like said for some more info on those kits.


former owner of a 1990 Grand Prix STE Turbo

Ice Dragon

good links

i am in the CLUB GP gang

it's just most of them are GTP guys so for a lot of them turbo isn't their thing

any way i wonder if the kits for the gen2 L36 will fit my gen 3 L26

i'll have to find out- looks good if so!

dave

RareGMFan

This is one of the guys on our local Grand Prix club.  I think you'll get a decent amount of info out of this  :wink: :

http://s92003205.onlinehome.us/17944.html

Lots of pages of info, there.
1990 Pontiac Grand Prix SE McLaren Turbo (1 of 2725), 1989 Pontiac 6000 STE AWD (1 of 1376)
1990 Pontiac Grand Prix STE McLaren Turbo (1 of 1000), 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Special Edition



Ice Dragon

that is a pretty extensive project-

i think my dreams are being shattered :(

i can do basic things but reality might be more than i want to learn

lol


i am going to keep the dream alive though and keep looking

dave

SpeedDemon

Never let your dreams get shattered. If you can find a grand national or buick regal T-Type that is in a junk yard or that someone is parting out the turbo setup should bolt right up. Their's not much difference (unless you consider the fwd thing a huge difference). That should give you everything you need. found this for you http://www.orlandospeedworld.com/forums/showthread.php?s=cc7b4c452a9462c9bc0600da7eed6bb5&threadid=29436 like I said I'm not sure if those parts would bolt right up but its at least worth the try.
1990 TGP: stock minus the K&N air filter and high flow cat
1999 Oldsmobile Aurora: What a step up from my 95 Monte Carlo
1967 Plymouth Belvedere II: 318 c.i., Flowmaster Exhaust, and in deserate need of new rear tires.

Ice Dragon

thanks

i can see you guys are very helpful!

my wife will appriciate all your help :P

oh well she'll get over it :wink:

dave

dbtk2

Quote from: SpeedDemonNever let your dreams get shattered. If you can find a grand national or buick regal T-Type that is in a junk yard or that someone is parting out the turbo setup should bolt right up. Their's not much difference (unless you consider the fwd thing a huge difference). That should give you everything you need.

You're right there isn't much difference except:

Different Block (with different crank, rods, pistons)
Different Heads
Different Lower & Upper Intake Manifold
Different Fuel Injection System

Should I keep going???  They are 100% completely a different engine other than the fact that they have the same 231c.i. displacement.  I don't mean to sound like an ass or anything, but I wouldn't give people info like that about something you don't know anything about.  

Quoteany way i wonder if the kits for the gen2 L36 will fit my gen 3 L26

Since the L26 is very similar to the L36 I would bet that it would come pretty close to bolting right up.  IIRC the only difference on the Series III is the throttle body and the internals, but I could be wrong.  Email the company and ask them, but I think it will come very close to bolting up.  Thats something I wouild look into because it is a very complete kit and is well worth the money.  The Stattama kit can put your car VERY close to, if not in the 11's with minimal other mods.  

Shawn
90 Maroon GP STE 3.1 I/C Turbo - SOLD!  :(
14.695 @ 94.49 w/2.228 60'
99 Green GP GT
9.75:1|K&N|160 tstat|no cat/ubend/res|ALT UD|Shift Kit|XPZ cam|Ported M90/TB/LIM/Heads|Powertuned|Pacesetters|42lb/hr|Stg 2 I/C|MPS|2.45"|ELEC WP|Zex 75/100/125|Walbro|ZZP IS|15/16"|AR103|Rollmaster|8 rib|MLS .052|ARP Head Studs|Billet FP|Alum Cradle
11.9912 @ 112.99 w/1.729 60', 347whp/417wtq on 93 octane/mustang dyno.

SpeedDemon

Quote from: dbtk2

You're right there isn't much difference except:

Different Block (with different crank, rods, pistons)
Different Heads
Different Lower & Upper Intake Manifold
Different Fuel Injection System

Should I keep going???  They are 100% completely a different engine other than the fact that they have the same 231c.i. displacement.  I don't mean to sound like an ass or anything, but I wouldn't give people info like that about something you don't know anything about.  

No you don't sound like an ass. I was just throwing options to the guy (wether they be good or not). I know that the engine is different I was thinking that he might "MIGHT" be able to use some of those parts (like the exhaust manifolds that i was refuring to in the last post) and it could give him something to work with. I also said that I didn't know if they would fit or not if you read the whole post.
1990 TGP: stock minus the K&N air filter and high flow cat
1999 Oldsmobile Aurora: What a step up from my 95 Monte Carlo
1967 Plymouth Belvedere II: 318 c.i., Flowmaster Exhaust, and in deserate need of new rear tires.