The whole cluster problem

Started by GutlessSupreme, February 03, 2005, 11:54:16 PM

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GutlessSupreme

My cluster's tach and speedo are off big time. HUD is correct. There was talk of this possibly being a bad ground, not necessarily a shot cluster. Was there any final word on this?
-Tony
gtsdurango.net
'04 Dakota SLT Quad Cab V8 AWD/4x4 - current daily
'90 Turbo Grand Prix STE - Crane H260 Cam, Getrag 282 Swap, 1.6 Rockers, Homebrewn Mildly Ported/Polished Heads/Intakes, Intrax Front Lowering Springs, KYB GR2s, 34mm Sway Bar, CS FSTB, AWeb RSTB, ES Poly Sway Bar Bushings, Cooper Cobra 245 - I'm working on it...
'92 Gutless Supreme SL - Dead
'90 Turbo Grand Prix - RIP 6-15-05

dbtk2

When I got my STE my tach/speedo were about 20-25% fast.  (the tach would be into the speedo when it shifted at WOT)  I put a new cluster in it and now its right.  I guess it could be a bad ground, but I'm betting its the cluster.

Shawn
90 Maroon GP STE 3.1 I/C Turbo - SOLD!  :(
14.695 @ 94.49 w/2.228 60'
99 Green GP GT
9.75:1|K&N|160 tstat|no cat/ubend/res|ALT UD|Shift Kit|XPZ cam|Ported M90/TB/LIM/Heads|Powertuned|Pacesetters|42lb/hr|Stg 2 I/C|MPS|2.45"|ELEC WP|Zex 75/100/125|Walbro|ZZP IS|15/16"|AR103|Rollmaster|8 rib|MLS .052|ARP Head Studs|Billet FP|Alum Cradle
11.9912 @ 112.99 w/1.729 60', 347whp/417wtq on 93 octane/mustang dyno.

mfewtrail

My speedo/tach are off also. :roll:  Everything else reads properly though, I've skimmed over all the old gauge posts I could find here and some suggested a bad ground, but nobody gave a definite answer.  I might pull the cluster this weekend and see if I can find anything out of the ordinary in there.  My speedo is right at lower speeds, but if you start romping on the gas, it gets to the point where it's ~15mph or so off at higher speeds, not to mention the tach makes me think I've got a mean revving DOHC motor under the hood winding out to a tad over seven grand. :wink:  My HUD is dead on despite the cluster issues.
'93 SE, '90 Black/tan TGP, & '90 Red/tan TGP

GutlessSupreme

Has anyone heard of this happening on other GPs? I'm wondering if it's a defect specific to the TGP clusters.
-Tony
gtsdurango.net
'04 Dakota SLT Quad Cab V8 AWD/4x4 - current daily
'90 Turbo Grand Prix STE - Crane H260 Cam, Getrag 282 Swap, 1.6 Rockers, Homebrewn Mildly Ported/Polished Heads/Intakes, Intrax Front Lowering Springs, KYB GR2s, 34mm Sway Bar, CS FSTB, AWeb RSTB, ES Poly Sway Bar Bushings, Cooper Cobra 245 - I'm working on it...
'92 Gutless Supreme SL - Dead
'90 Turbo Grand Prix - RIP 6-15-05

SpeedDemon

Quote from: dbtk2I guess it could be a bad ground, but I'm betting its the cluster.

Shawn

It is the cluster and it's $350 :cry: for GM to send it out to get it fixed (I've asked the dealership one day about the speedometer being off). I will ask some guys at work to see exactly what they fix to try and help people out with this problem.
1990 TGP: stock minus the K&N air filter and high flow cat
1999 Oldsmobile Aurora: What a step up from my 95 Monte Carlo
1967 Plymouth Belvedere II: 318 c.i., Flowmaster Exhaust, and in deserate need of new rear tires.

no1kicker

Had the same problem.  Swapped a new cluster and it was better.


former owner of a 1990 Grand Prix STE Turbo

dbtk2

Quote from: SpeedDemon
Quote from: dbtk2I guess it could be a bad ground, but I'm betting its the cluster.

Shawn

It is the cluster and it's $350 :cry: for GM to send it out to get it fixed (I've asked the dealership one day about the speedometer being off). I will ask some guys at work to see exactly what they fix to try and help people out with this problem.

Mine was like $30 on ebay.  I could sell you my original one, it reads 20% fast and the boost gauge only works part of the time, but I'd give you a killer deal on it!

Shawn
90 Maroon GP STE 3.1 I/C Turbo - SOLD!  :(
14.695 @ 94.49 w/2.228 60'
99 Green GP GT
9.75:1|K&N|160 tstat|no cat/ubend/res|ALT UD|Shift Kit|XPZ cam|Ported M90/TB/LIM/Heads|Powertuned|Pacesetters|42lb/hr|Stg 2 I/C|MPS|2.45"|ELEC WP|Zex 75/100/125|Walbro|ZZP IS|15/16"|AR103|Rollmaster|8 rib|MLS .052|ARP Head Studs|Billet FP|Alum Cradle
11.9912 @ 112.99 w/1.729 60', 347whp/417wtq on 93 octane/mustang dyno.

SpeedDemon

Quote from: dbtk2

Mine was like $30 on ebay.  I could sell you my original one, it reads 20% fast and the boost gauge only works part of the time, but I'd give you a killer deal on it!

Shawn

Mine works its just 20mph off but the head up display works. I work at the Chevrolet dealership by my house so I get a chance to talk to the guys there about these problems. If I could find out whats wrong with the speedometer I could try to fix it. But no one seems to have that answer yet.
1990 TGP: stock minus the K&N air filter and high flow cat
1999 Oldsmobile Aurora: What a step up from my 95 Monte Carlo
1967 Plymouth Belvedere II: 318 c.i., Flowmaster Exhaust, and in deserate need of new rear tires.