First of all let me say Hello to everyone.
Owner of a Red 90 TGP. Vin 301644. Problem with PMIII.
It is great to belong to a community of fellow car lovers. I have more to say but I'm here for the point.
A link to a website I found by doing a search on VIN numbers.
http://www.analogx.com/contents/vinview.htm

It really doesn't tell you anything you don't already know.


Tips to understanding your vehicles serial (VIN) number

They are as follows:

1st character- Identifies the country in which the vehicle was manufactured.
For example: U.S.A.(1or4), Canada(2), Mexico(3), Japan(J), Korea(K), England(S), Germany(W), Italy(Z)

2nd character- Identifies the manufacturer. For example; Audi(A),
BMW(B), Buick(4), Cadillac(6), Chevrolet(1), Chrysler(C), Dodge(B),
Ford(F), GM Canada(7), General Motors(G), Honda(H), Jaquar(A), Lincoln(L), Mercedes Benz(D), Mercury(M), Nissan(N), Oldsmobile(3), Pontiac(2or5), Plymouth(P), Saturn(8), Toyota(T), VW(V), Volvo(V).

3rd character- Identifies vehicle type or manufacturing division.

4th to 8th characters- Identifies vehicle features such as body style, engine type, model, series, etc.

9th character- Identifies VIN accuracy as check digit.
It Is determined by a complicated formula.
Each character is assigned a numerical value and then multiplied
by the value assigned to its position. These values
assigned to its position. These values are added and then
divided by 11. The remainder is the Check Digit. This character
can be numeric or the letter X.


10th character- Identifies the model year. For example: 1988(J), 1989(K), 1990(L), 1991(M), 1992(N), 1993(P), 1994(R), 1995(S), 1996(T),
1997(V), 1998(W), 1999(X), 2000(Y)------2001(1), 2002(2), 2003(3)

11th character- Identifies the assembly plant for the vehicle.

12th to 17th characters- Identifies the sequence of the vehicle for production
as it rolled of the manufacturers assembly line.
Quoted from http://www.autoinsurancetips.com/vin.htm

Here is another site that has a little more informaition.
http://www.angelfire.com/ca/TORONTO/VIN/VINcode.html

Later.

Welcome Doug! :D

Cool pages you posted...just wish we could break down the ASC layout for production numbers of TGP and TSTE specific. Sort of like the Shelby days...#123 of 150 produced sort of thing. :wink:  8)

I know, i just got my 75 years of pontiac book and it has ALL the production figures, but it goes, Grand Prix, LE, SE and Complete total, no turbo numbers  :?

I know what you mean about OUR ASC/McLaren cars. There HAS to be SOMEBODY who knows.
(I was reading other posts about this lack of record keeping)

Maybe we could line up a big wig from each company (GM,ASC,McLaren)and shoot them in the foot till they cough up some information, or blood whichever gets us the information that we all would like to have.

I love my TGP even though collectively I have not drove it more than 1 mile since I bought it.
But I want to find out MORE about it LIKE:

What exactly did McLaren do? Gimme Specs and serials.
ASC? What all did they do?

Drive it like you stole it.
Later.

http://www.w-body.com/tgp/index.html

Also, here's a thread listing differences between the naturally aspirated vs. our turbo 3.1's. :wink: http://www.w-body.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12387

Thanks, that is a lot of info.
That's the kind of stuff I was looking for.
Maybe that info should be a sticky on this site as well,  :?:

I know that this really isn't that on topic but has anyone ever wondered what the list of production options that you find in your trunk stood for? Because I have a GM Productions Options list that starts in 1987 and ends 1999 that is 104 pages long along with the vin decoder for those years. It also has trucks too.

So for my car

  1G5WP14V2LF217754

1: U.S.A. Built                                  
G: General Motors                              
5: Pontiac Incomplete                        
WP: Grand Prix SE                  
1:Two Door Coupe/ Sedan                
4: Automatic Seat Belts                    
V: 3.1 V6 FI Built in United States (As opposed to the NA 3.1 built in Mexico or Canida)    
2: Check Digit                                
L: 1990 Model Year                          
F: Fairfax II KS and Flint (T&B) MI              
217754: Production Sequence Number

So the Turbo Grand Prix are the only v6 Grand prix that was built entirely in the United States.

Here is a site I found:

www.rpocodes.com which takes you to:
http://www.c2e.info/rpocodes/rpomain.html

I think I've seen various threads in this forum about RPO codes too. Not absoultely sure if any websites were mentioned though.

Later....