is anyone using a 282 from an J or L body?  i looked at the numbers on 60*V6 and i really think the J/L body 282 would be a MUCH better choice for the LG5 than the W-body 282 or any Quad-4 version of the 282.

J/L 282 has the same FDR as the W-body 282, however 1st gear is 3.50 instead of the steep 3.77 the W-body 282 has.  J/L 282 2nd gear looks better too.  J/L 282 has a 2.05 2nd gear compared to the 2.19 W-body 282 2nd gear.  i think i'd have much better traction in 1st and 2nd with a J/L body 282 for sure.

anyways, 3rd gear is the same between the two.  J/L 282 4th gear has a slightly overdriven .94 compared to W-body 282s 1.03 4th gear.  J/L 282 5th is better too...you get .72 5th gear (28% overdrive) compared to the W-body 282s .81 (19% overdrive) for better gas mileage.

i have an extra perfectly good W-body 282 sitting in my garage and now i'm thinking i might just end up selling it off and looking for a J/L Getrag 282 instead.  i already know where one is and it is at a junkyard that practically gives me stuff.  i'll have to check it out....i think the less steep 1st gear would make it easier to launch and the less steep 2nd gear would give me some much needed traction and let me stretch out 2nd gear a little longer.  what i'm really curious about is the transmission mount between various 282s....if the mount can be interchanged no problem then swapping a different 282 into a W-body should be easy.

lately i'm rather sick of the whole LG5/5-speed thing.  anytime under 35mph and there is just no traction at all....not until i get into 3rd gear anyway.  maybe some sticky 245s and a 282 from a V6 Beretta will change my mind....

I agree the J/L 282 does look like it would be a much better choice for an LG5 car.  If you could find out if it would mount the same or how hard it would be to make it work I'd appreciate it, because I'm hoping to do a 282 swap very soon and I really don't want the rediculously short w-body 282 gears, I think it will be pretty useless.

Shawn

Quote from: dbtk2I agree the J/L 282 does look like it would be a much better choice for an LG5 car.  If you could find out if it would mount the same or how hard it would be to make it work I'd appreciate it, because I'm hoping to do a 282 swap very soon and I really don't want the rediculously short w-body 282 gears, I think it will be pretty useless.

Shawn

yes, honestly i am so sick of my Cutlass that i think i'd rather have an auto!  1st and 2nd gear are sooooo utterly useless that i have to really feather the throttle until i get into 3rd....then i can finally go WOT :(  it's really not fun to drive this way at all and i'm going through front tires very quickly.

x3 pretty much let us know what you find out :)

J/Ls don't have an intermediate shaft though, do they? Will ours bolt up?

Quote from: GutlessSupremex3 pretty much let us know what you find out :)

J/Ls don't have an intermediate shaft though, do they? Will ours bolt up?

yes, they do have an intermediate shaft but i'm not 100% sure it will bolt right up yet.  fwiw my Cutlass has an intermediate shaft bracket from a Beretta but that doesn't say much.  i have the next two days off work and i intend to go to the j/y to find out.  i will get pics of course.  i would be REALLY surprised if all 282s were not interchangeable.  obviously the Q4 has a different bellhousing than the V6 282s but besides that i'm betting they are easily interchangeable...at least i'm hoping so.  it doesn't make sense that GM would use a different 282 case for different V6 applications.  as far as i know, god910 was using an L-body 282 in his TGP....

z284pwr has an '89 Beretta with a 5-speed in his sig....maybe he can tell us what's up? :)

Cases are the same, considering we pulled the engine that was in the TGP, bolted it to the L-Body 5spd and droped it in the "88" :wink: Beretta.

All GM 60*V6 trans appear to have the same bell housing, its the Quad 4s and other 4cyl engines that appear to have different bell housings, which "technically" can be replaced for a V6 one

do you know if the L-body 282 has the same tranny mount as the W-body 282?  or if the L-body 282 mount is different, can a W-body 282 mount be bolted to an L-body 282?

i know the bellhousing is the same for all V6/282s, but i want to know if everything else is the same on the 282 case regardless of wether it goes into a Cavalier, Beretta or W-body - tranny mount, slave cylinder mount, shifter cable brackets on the trans, intermediate shaft interchangeability etc.

thanks! :)

Does the lighter weight J/L body 282 have the same torque ratings? Maybe that is why Black Sunshine shit her gears all over the track so early? :shock:  8)

Quote from: TGPilotDoes the lighter weight J/L body 282 have the same torque ratings? Maybe that is why Black Sunshine shit her gears all over the track so early? :shock:  8)

as far as i know it's the very same trans except for the actual gear ratios (1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th).  it should be a Getrag 282 just like the W-body uses and be just as strong and weigh exactly the same.

i know the lower output 4-cylinder engines recieved the Isuzu 282, and that one should be avoided.

i think Jay may have been using slicks when his trans puked all over the track?

it's too bad a lower (numerically) FDR isn't available so we could get a hybrid 282 built.  alot of the Turbo Dodge guys are doing that.

I posted on the B.Net message board to see what they say about the mount interchangability.  As I have never seen a 5spd W-Body upclose so I dunno how the mounting system is, however, I would assume the mounts can be changed just because we had the one off of the Beretta when we had it out.  Its like was mentioned earlier, why would GM go into the big hassle of making it that much different between models, it increases production cost right.  It would be like them having a different alternator for every model.....

Quote from: TurboSedani think Jay may have been using slicks when his trans puked all over the track?

Yeah, IIRC he was running slicks and launched it pretty hard and thats what caused it to blow to pieces.

Shawn

I think he actually had the slicks installed that day IIRC. damn shame.

They weren't slicks, they were Nitto drag radials.  Plus, he was only ran a  low 15 on the previous run so it's not like it was being pushed that hard....sorry Jay :P

I ran 15.27 with a slipping clutch and high altitude! :shock:

I think there were some issues with the 282's, but what will soon be determined and corrected... :wink:  8)