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Quote from: dbtk2So to tune all I need is the ALDU1 USB-to-ALDL Converter, the CABL1 OBD1-Style ALDL Connector, and the tunerpro RT program right?

If so I'll buy it today!

Shawn

no, you'll still need a an EPROM burner and a UV eraser at the very least (or skip the UV eraser and use EEPROMs).  does Tunerpro RT edit .bin files and work as a datalogger?  or do you need Datamaster TTS along with it?  i'm kind of confused as to what Tunerpro RT can do.

Shawn...For logging you need the ALDU1, CABL1, and the TunerPro RT program. As Josh said you will need an EPROM burning station. I STRONGLY recommend replacing the stock 27C256 UV erase chip with an ATMEL 29C256 EEPROM. Makes life a touch easier to just flash and go...rather than waiting 30 minutes for the stock UV EPROM to erase before you can start to burn new info. If you have the money on hand...the OSTRICH emulator is the ultimate and considering it is $375 for a real time emulator...that is the ticket in my book. I am not using one at present, but will be in the near future.

Josh...TunerPro RT will edit the .bin completely, it datalogs beautifully, and also allows the OSTRICH real time emulation with changes on the fly without restarting or resetting anything in the car. Save the change and it instantly loads the info to the ECM and you are done. You would need the OSTRICH to emulate...but for logging and .bin editing it is REAL NICE!

Dave...The CABL1 is a slip on ALDL plug. Just slide it on, connect with the TunerPro RT software and you are on your way. You will need to load the proper Serial < - > USB drivers, but Craig includes a nice how to install guide that took me all of 10 minutes to install the drivers.

ALL...Craig and Mark work together to make sure their products are fully compatible and have NO hick-ups. I have talked with both of them on the phone and emails. They are great guys who are not going to pull the plug on their products because someone else upsets them slightly and gives them competition!

I already have a scantool and have for a while so I have no problems logging.  

Where can I get this chip you are talking about that erases quicker? (the EEPROM)  Where can I get an eprom burner and how does it work (connect to the computer or what?)?  And where can I get a eprom eraser and what does this stuff cost?  Just looking to do it on a tight budget because I really need to do some chip work but don't want to dump much more into the STE as it is now my driver since I've moved onto a different project.  

Sorry about kinda hijacking this thread but I've never really been able to find all this info...

Shawn

Quote from: dbtk2
So to tune all I need is the ALDU1 USB-to-ALDL Converter, the CABL1 OBD1-Style ALDL Connector, and the tunerpro RT program right?

If so I'll buy it today!

Shawn

Quote from: dbtk2I already have a scantool and have for a while so I have no problems logging.

if you have no problems logging then you already have the ALDL cable and datalogging software needed; no need to buy the same stuff twice.  actually tuning the chip does not require an ALDL cable or datalogging software.  tuning the chip requires .bin editing software and an EPROM burner like Pocket Programmer or the Willem programmer like Dave is using.

I have a $45 EPROM burner I got from www.mcumall.com Works great but a bit of overkill for just tuning 29c256 chips. It does many many other chips also.

I think Craig sells a burner on his site. I got my AT29c256 EEPROMS from Craig. Best price I saw on the web with many in stock. Many other sites needed to order them as no stock in house.

You will need a soldering iron with a thin pencil tip, a small pair of wire snips to cut the legs of the stock chip, and patience to replace the chip.

Shawn, the EEPROM is "quicker" because it's Electronically Eraseable Programable Read Only Memory.  It just applies a funny voltage across a few pins and BAM. (Usually local to the type or a group of chips)

I'd suggest buying a few chips.  I usually buy 5 or so at a time.  Because, well, just suffice to say it's not hard to destroy one.  Ask Mr. Canada over there.   :D Well, I guess it wasn't broken, but the data was in a few "odd" spots.  The specific chip in question is an Atmel 29C256  EEPROM.  I got mine from moates.  The Willem will be the burner I re-buy when I'm ready.

I can't say this enough people, and I'll say it till the end of time to everyone I meet.  THE POCKET PROGRAMMER CAN KISS MY ASS.  SO CAN THE TECH. SUPPORT BEHIND IT.  IT'S BULLSHIT THAT THEY SEND YOU A 3.5" FLOPPY THAT PROBABLY COSTS MORE THAN A CD-R AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THEN IT SHITS IT'SELF AND THEY WON'T EMAIL YOU THE 1'S AND 0'S THAT WAS ON IT.  YOU HAVE TO PAY $49 FOR IT.  BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!  If I ever meet one of their tech. support guys, I'm mailing his body parts to his family.  In baggies.  And not the freezer kind.  The little ones.

Shawn, you don't need an EPROM eraser if you use an EEPROM, it'll save you money there.  You do have to solder in your new EEPROM in place of the old, or do what I'd suggest and get the moates adapter.  It's like $30 and well worth it.  If you solder in the chip get a wire wrap header to be able to re-program it.

Costs: Moates.net adapter -$35
EEPROMS: $30 for 5
Willem programmer: $50
Header:  Can't remember, but IIRC like $15

Being able to modify and burn your own chips:  $130 or so.

(You expected me to say priceless didn't you?  Hahahahaha)

Also, on the software.  To whom it may concern:  I LOVE the TTS Software, I haven't worked w/ the other stuff, but I showed my Evo driving buddy a few of the logs and he nearly shit himself.  We both have $1000+ Engine Management solutions and the logs look like, well, Stick Figures next to (insert favorite porn star/Model here)

It's not free, but it's VERY worth it especially compared to all of the free stuff that *was* on the market.  (I'm not current so there may be better, but not at the time.)  Hell, I couldn't get half of it to work.  Happy tuning.  :D

got my cable today, finally!  Took all 14 days, but I guess I shouldn't complaing for the price, and also considering it came from Poland.  Anyway, hopefully this weekend I'll have some time to play around with it.  Any tips, tricks on hookup and operation?

ya the Datamaster program may not recognize the cable.....i have a fix on that within the datamaster software options if ya need.

its with the serial timing.

click this on the datamaster program.

Top left >File

>Record ALDL Data

Serial Data Acquisition box opens

Click > Options

>Advanced

>Setup Serial Communication Timing

ok there are 4 bars

you want the last one on the right >ALDL Link Timing

mine is at 196 and to get yours try 196 or up 5 or down 5 then you should get hooked up.

lemme now how it goes.

Dave

At least you got your on the first try.  Huh Davie?   :D

Quote from: god910At least you got your on the first try.  Huh Davie?   :D

More Luck Than Skill  :lol: