Ok, so there are a couple of problems....

1) every so often, as often as 5 times a day, when I stop or slow down to a near stop, my TGP shuts off. No prob, I pop her into Neutral and start her up again, but it's getting annoying...anyone know what this is caused from? Any suggestions?

2) I've noticed there is a clicking sound, kind of like a clock only faster, coming from where I believe is under the plenum, but not sure. I am not a mechanic, nor do I usually have any freaking clue what I'm doing, so I really need help...any suggestions?


You guys should probably know my way of auto repair: The Mitch Hedberg Approach; that is, if the car is acting up and the gas light is on,  say "no problem, I got this one."...but if I put gas in it and it still doesn't run right, I'm FUCKED! I'd be the worst mechanic. Someone would come up to me and say "Why is my car acting up?" and I'd say "I don't know, maybe there's a KILLER AFTER YOU!" lol, well now you know. PLEASE HELP ME.

Krenzy

Not being a mechanic and owning a TGP...you will be one soon! ;)

Ok for the stalling we need some info.

1). How many miles on the car?
2). What cross-over do you have? Stock?
3). How old is the 02 sensor?
4). What chip is in your car?
5). Does it stall before you come to a stop or as you come to a stop...does it feel like the motor tries to recover from the stall or does it just die. Kind of like a chugging from the engine and then stall...or a surge from the engine and then stall.

The noise under the plenum could be a lifter that has lost it's prime. Might be an easy enough fix with just an oil additive.

Another question...did the stalling and the ticking sound start at the same time? Do you smell alot of gas through the exhaust or under the hood of the car near the plenum?

Let us know...Kenny :icon_cool:

The gas light is an easy fix, look here, just a little sodering and your gold

http://www.w-body.com/service/checkgauges.html

The stalling is what mind used to do constantly, but i got a chip made for me, you can get one from Jeff M or somthing, unless some1 here is kind enough too make one,  and it might solve it, but a badly cracked crossover pipe or bad o2 sensor will cause stalling

the noisy lifter could be caused by a flam oil filter. get AC Delco filters from the dealership if you arent running them now. My noisy lifters take a lot of warming up before they quiet down. I know my car is faster than ever at 180k miles. 3.1s are tough as nails. just learn quick and ask a lot of questions, my best advise

Maybe the ticking sound is just the injectors.

Quote from: 93luminaz34 on April 06, 2006, 07:53:15 PM
Maybe the ticking sound is just the injectors.

That is why I asked if the stalling and the ticking started at the same time. Could be an exhaust leak or faulty injector. Ticking sounds can sound like they are coming from one place and actually are just being telegraphed through the block.

We need information from him to help... :icon_cool:

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I was driving a Typhoon the other day and the things fuel injectors were making a loud snapping sound. I wonder if someone stuck some typhoon injectors in your car. In the TGP its not very loud and you can barely hear them most of the time even at full throttle. thats mostly cause the plenum is more open on the typhoon motor and you could hear them snapping pretty loud.

Ok, first thank you everyone for your quick replies...sorry I wasn't by my computer all day, I worked the midnight shift this week, and slept most of the day. I'm going to address the questions in the order they were asked.

1) My car has I believe 146,000...just around there, but less than 150xxx...i'd check but it's a long walk in the soft rain.

2) Stock crossover, but the guy I bought it from, AirTGP, told me when he had the engine apart the stock one looked just like new and he couldn't see anything wrong with it...although I will tell you he told me upfront about the engine killing and he wasn't sure why either. Can anyone tell me how hard it is to replace the corssover if I need to do that? Any chance I could screw it up lol...?

3) I'm not sure about the O2 sensor...sorry

4) Stock chip, I even called him to check.

5) It stalls when I stop, like JUST as I stop...it doesn't sound like it's putting up a fight usually it just dies...nice and quiet lol.

My dad, who is also not a mechanic but knows quite a bit about cars having grown up in the 60's and 70's lol, also suggested it might be a lifter making the noise.

I'm sorry I can't tell you when they both started although I don't recall the ticking sound when I first got her, but my memory is not the best.

I don't smell gas anywhere in the engine bay.

I believe the shop I had my oil changed at, yes I'm that bad that I can't even change my own oil...but I believe it was a Delco filter...I was with them the whole time cause they have me in there all the time...I try to learn lol...credit?

I do know that, as far as exhaust leaks go, there is a slice in the pipe right after the cat that was clamped shut...any chance that could affect it?

I believe that the injectors are stock or an OEM replacement.

I'd like to add that, while I'm not mechanically inclined, I do believe I'm a car freak...I know damn near everything that the general public would know about cars..Like if I see a car driving down the road I could easily tell you what year it is and usually figure out what kind of engine it has...as well as anything special about it...like my buddy's SHO, he has a 90 5 spd, and I can tell him that his year was the second year of the SHO and first year to offer an ATX (auto)...stupid stuff like that. So if you ever see me comment or post something as-matter-of-factly, if it's not mechanical I usualy know what I'm talking about. In the same respect, if I do post something mechanical, I've usualy gone through it myself and offer my 2 cents...just being myself, all you can expect. Can you tell I'm relatively new here? lol.

If you need anymore info I'll help out as much as I can and I should be on here more today than I was yesterday. Again thanks alot guys...

wow I wrote a book...lol

Well most likely if the car has had normal driving over a 1 year period of having the stock made x-over it is bad. The bellows are paper thin and crack very easily. That could also be the ticking noise you are hearing if you are doing a 6 foot inspection. 6foot inspection mean opening the hood and standing looking at it and not sticking your ear close to the engine to hear where the sound is coming from. All TGP/TSTE's have a very common problem with the stock x-over cracking and causing faulty 02 sensors. It sucks in fresh air before the 02 sensor causing the ECM to think it is running lean...it fattens the mixture severely causing the engine to run like garbage and also slowly killing the 02 sensor with such a rich mixture.

My suggestion to you is to get a replacement x-over, 02 sensor, and a corrected chip to further help you to with your driveability issues. Contact Jeff M and see what he can do for you. If you end up in a crunch to make your car work the way it should and Jeff does not get back with you on a x-over and such...let me know and maybe I can give you a hand. :icon_cool:

How hard is it to replace the stock crossover? What all needs to be removed? Do you think I should take it in to be done, or could I do it myself and not be afraid of ruining something? Thanks!

Krenzy

You say you have NO mechanical experience. To save yourself heart ache and bloody knuckles you might want to take it in. Me on the other hand would have it done in a hour or less probably but I have been turning wrenches for 18 years! ;)

It is not that bad, but if you don't have the proper tools it will not be easy. There are a couple of bolts that are a real pain to get to...even with the right tools. :icon_cool:

ratchet endwrenches RULE!  at least for getting the turbo off.

Quote from: GangstGP on April 08, 2006, 04:12:16 PM
ratchet endwrenches RULE!  at least for getting the turbo off.

Swivel sockets and an air ratchet make it a lot easier!!!

Have you ever used swivel head gear wrenches?  If you haven't I suggest it.  They make live 100x's easier.