Rick I did not mean to start an argument with you.. I just think these cars are a rare catch.  I have seen to young kids get this cars in my town and completely trash them to hell.. So I guess what i was saying is that the car is worth alot.  To the person who owns it.  I was also just saying I would hate to have a great car go to some dumb ass who would trash it.. Sorry that I miss spoke my self..  :oops:   I guess I would rather hold on to it and start a collection.. just need to win the lotto...  :lol:  sorry for the disagrement..  KCP

Quote from: TGPilotSo what you guys are saying is if we all put our "opinions of worth" together and say that our cars are worth $7000 then that is what the insurance company will pay for it if it is totalled?? It does not matter what NADA says or Kelly Blue Book? Where do I sign up? Better yet lets go to the junk yards and get ahold of as many Pintos as we can find and put our "opinions of worth" together and make a fortune!!! Because we say it is worth something and hold out on that price someone will pay us for our Pintos!

To some extent that is what I'm saying. In fact, your pinto example is a good one. If I had ALL the pintos in the world, and someone wanted one they would have to pay my price, or not have one.

The NADA and KBB are an attempt at trying to establish a value for a car. For the 300,000 f-150's produced a year it works fine. However, for the 7000 TGP's ever produced it sucks. Organized ratings systems only work for the average. For unique situations it just doesn't work. Its a product of the industries (used cars, insurance etc) to help establish a fair value for a car. What someone is willing to pay. They just won't take the car owners word for it. Most people in that industry I've talked to don't even know what a TGP is, so how can they value it.

The gist of whay I'm saying is, if we are talking down the value of our OWN cars, we are shooting ourselves in the foot. Much like you say, your car is worth $6000, to you. Rick's car is worth $5800 to him. And to someone else the 1200 mile TGP that sold last year (i think it was last year) for $12,000 was worth that to them. Value can also be on a comparision basis, what else can you get with similar features for the price? For a car that turns heads, has a turbo and is as accomodating (among other things) as the TGP there isn't a whole lot else you can find. Making our cars more valuable for everyone has to start with us the guys who own them. If WE say they are worth more OTHER people will start to think that. But if WE refer to TGP's as worthless pain in the ass cars, thats how other will view them. Its unfortunate that the TGP had a sticker price of $26,000 in 1990, which I'm pretty sure is more than a GN or a Sy/Ty if you calcualte inflation, is worth less on average today. For me it just doesn't add up, and I want it to change.

Chris

Chris...

I understand what you are saying. I understand that if one person or a group of people have the corner on any market they can name their own price. What I said in my original reply was good luck selling his car for what he wants for it right now. With the car market where it is and the value of our cars being labeled as they are. If he gets that much for it now...all the power to him. I have already taken a stand on the value of our cars by saying I will take no lees than $6000 for mine... 8)

Mine was beat to hell when I got it. He wanted $2800. There is one on ebay that someone put up a link to. Mine looked just as bad as it. I did talk him down to $2300 but I would've paid way more than $2800. Ever since the first time I saw Waskie's website I wanted one. That was back in the 90's. I saw one for sale and I knew I would get it, no matter what I had to pay for it. Now I wouldn't sell it for anything. BUT I would and will buy another one.

Chris a and Tgpilot i totally agree..   We as TGP owners are a rare breed.  I would not sell my car for anything.  I love my car. Even though there are things that i want to do to it.  But that is what a performance car is for. You should always want to inprove it..  That in turns boosts the value of the car.  NO PUN INTENDED... :lol:  No one knows what the value of our cars are until they have.  and its not just having one its working on it and making it better watching it grow persay..  Plus there is always the past history of you adn your car. I had mine since i was 16 I have so many memories in that car that there is not enough money to replace them.. TO me my TGP is worth more than just about anything... Just my thinking on this matter.. KCP

I kinda like that they aren't worth a lot because I can buy them for cheap! :D I think if I ever tried to sell mine, I would have a difficult time until someone really knew what the car is.

This whole thing is blown up for what ever reason , I have no idea. TGPilot, don't candy coat what you said in the previous posts. 1st you tell me I wont get $5800 for a few more years and I might get $4000 but for me not to hold my breath.
2nd you tell that whatever KBB says then thats the value of my car.
Honestly I dodn't think you know at all about the car market or the TGP market for that matter. Otherwise you wouldn't make the foolish statements about the value of my car or what I'll get for it,unless you have inspected it first hand. This is a limited production car.
If I want $5800 for it GOOD. How does that effect you? You obviously aren't in the market for another one so whats the prob?
If you feel the need to debate me on an issue.......Pick a better one than this. You aren't making sense at all. Do you see me coming back with,
$6000? Oh you'll never get that for your car my friend, you may be lucky to get $3500, but don't hold your breath. I wont say that because the more money your car brings the more these cars go up in value. Period!

Quote from: TGPilot$5800 won't happen for a few more years my friend. You may get $4000 for it but don't hold your breath... 8)

This is what I said! As the market stands right now on these cars that statement is correct!! Unless you find someone who is looking for this car specifically you will not get $5800! It has nothing to do with the fact that I said it or anyone else says it. What the hell am I candy coating? The fact that I say that I think the value of these cars should be higher but they are not? I would be a total fool to not want to get more money returned on an investment. Yet you have already stated that you think I am a fool...I could care less.

As far as my car selling for $6000...like I said before if someone was to approach me with that much cash for my TGP it would be gone. Did I say I could sell it for that much??? DID I? What is the difference of a $200 sale price that you feel you need to get in my face about this! I do not think these cars will sell for that kind of money now or in the near future! That is my opinion and if you don't like it....FUCK OFF!!!!

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Don't tell me what I can or can't get for my car ass hole! Who do you think you are....The TGP authority? Like I said if I want $5800 for my car then shut up if your not a buyer. If you want to negotiate with me, this isn't the right way to get your price. Its $6500 for you Clown!

Wow and to think I was going to give you $6100 for it...$6500 is out of my range! So sad for me... :cry: I am sure there will be many people lined up to buy a TGP that is seriously above the current premium price.

I am way beyond finished with you! Have a nice day :moon:

okay okay people I know we like to Fight but start it in The Off Topic I can see both of you like fighting about this....

heck we all love a good Fight of words from time to time.....

Okay he will get that $$ because of the milage  and "show Quality" I would pay it if I wasnt loosing my Job and getting a second ste if the wife lets me...... Plus if he waits untill Spring and summer and puts it on ebay he should beable to get it...also autotrader.com would help and hey if he gives me Pics and information I'll post it on my web site and 1000 people/month will see it..and it would sell......

so go ahead and start a Fight in the Off Topic....

I am finished with this thread anyway Jeorge.... It is merely my opinion that these cars are not worth that much...my opinion!!! Yes they are fun to drive and have loads of options too...I just don't think they are worth that much. I am entitled to my opinion am I not? Just like he is entitled to think his car is worth $5800. I said for him to not hold his breath. My reason to say that is because it is going to take a special buyer to get that much for his car...8)

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