New TGP Exhaust System

Started by TGP Nick, February 19, 2007, 07:26:47 PM

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GPChief

2004 GTP -  3.8 Blown - Only modding for MPG.
1997 GTP  - 3.8 Blown - Too many mods to list.
1996 GTP - 3.4 DOHC - Twin to my 1997.
1995 SE - soon to be a 3.8 turbo car.
1990 TSTE x 2 white cloth
1990 TSTE x 1 maroon leather
1990 TGP - 5 speed.

TGP Nick

Quote from: GPChief on March 04, 2007, 07:59:26 PM
http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=537&catid=110

HTH
Thanx for the tip, but I'm going with a Magnaflow Y- it is cheaper, and the perfect size I need.  Thanks anyway :thumb:

Does anyone know/have the dimensions of the stock mufflers? (length, width, height)?

Thanks everyone
Nick
1989 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix- LG5 - 4T60HD
2008 Ford Ranger XLT- 2.3 DOHC I-4 - 5MT
2012 Nissan Altima SR coupe- 3.5 V6 - 6MT

GutlessSupreme

3" y-pipe outlets are completely pointless, you realize this yes? Going that big is going to hurt velocity. Two 2.5" pipes already way outflow a single 3" pipe. I thought you were keeping the stock 2.5" downpipe anyway?
-Tony
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'90 Turbo Grand Prix STE - Crane H260 Cam, Getrag 282 Swap, 1.6 Rockers, Homebrewn Mildly Ported/Polished Heads/Intakes, Intrax Front Lowering Springs, KYB GR2s, 34mm Sway Bar, CS FSTB, AWeb RSTB, ES Poly Sway Bar Bushings, Cooper Cobra 245 - I'm working on it...
'92 Gutless Supreme SL - Dead
'90 Turbo Grand Prix - RIP 6-15-05

TGP Nick

Quote from: GutlessSupreme on March 05, 2007, 12:04:10 PM
3" y-pipe outlets are completely pointless, you realize this yes? Going that big is going to hurt velocity. Two 2.5" pipes already way outflow a single 3" pipe. I thought you were keeping the stock 2.5" downpipe anyway?
Hold on-  YES I am keeping the stock downpipe.  From there, I was going to run 3" exhaust back to the Y.  I am unsure of what to run for the Y.  From what you said, I should be running 2.5" pipes from the Y to the mufflers, correct?  I need your input on this...
Nick
1989 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix- LG5 - 4T60HD
2008 Ford Ranger XLT- 2.3 DOHC I-4 - 5MT
2012 Nissan Altima SR coupe- 3.5 V6 - 6MT

GutlessSupreme

#64
Well I'm just saying.. 3" back to the Y would be ok if you DO plan on upgrading the downpipe to 3" in the future (and getting a turbo that could actually take advantage of such diameter).

If you're always going to have a 2.5" downpipe, having a 3" exhaust is going to do nothing but hurt your wallet and possibly performance. It sure as hell won't increase flow if it's bottlenecked at the 2.5" downpipe.

And if you were to get 3" back to the Y, take this into consideration:

3" pipe flow area: 7.07 sq-in
2.5" pipe flow area: 4.91 sq-in (x2 pipes = 9.82 sq-in

So even going from a 3" pipe to two 2.5" pipes is a big increase in overall area, there's no reason to go any bigger after the Y.

Maybe I'm missing some hidden mystical logic in this.. I don't understand how having a pipe split into the same size would ever help anything, as the flow would just be split and velocity would go down.
-Tony
gtsdurango.net
'04 Dakota SLT Quad Cab V8 AWD/4x4 - current daily
'90 Turbo Grand Prix STE - Crane H260 Cam, Getrag 282 Swap, 1.6 Rockers, Homebrewn Mildly Ported/Polished Heads/Intakes, Intrax Front Lowering Springs, KYB GR2s, 34mm Sway Bar, CS FSTB, AWeb RSTB, ES Poly Sway Bar Bushings, Cooper Cobra 245 - I'm working on it...
'92 Gutless Supreme SL - Dead
'90 Turbo Grand Prix - RIP 6-15-05

Invasion1

#65
Stock 2.5 DP to 2.5 mandrel bent piping all the way to the mufflers

and be done with it....anything more is overkill unless your Kuntzie  :laugh:


TGP Nick

Ok thanks for the info guys.  I'll do 2.5" from the dp to the mufflers then (including 2.5" Y)
Thanks. ;)
Nick
1989 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix- LG5 - 4T60HD
2008 Ford Ranger XLT- 2.3 DOHC I-4 - 5MT
2012 Nissan Altima SR coupe- 3.5 V6 - 6MT

Invasion1

you won't be disapointed thats a good setup


TGP Nick

Dave, is that the setup you have?
Nick
1989 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix- LG5 - 4T60HD
2008 Ford Ranger XLT- 2.3 DOHC I-4 - 5MT
2012 Nissan Altima SR coupe- 3.5 V6 - 6MT

Invasion1


TGP Nick

Nick
1989 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix- LG5 - 4T60HD
2008 Ford Ranger XLT- 2.3 DOHC I-4 - 5MT
2012 Nissan Altima SR coupe- 3.5 V6 - 6MT