high idle

Started by Prospeeder, March 01, 2007, 11:44:52 PM

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TGP Nick

Prospeeder- do you still have an oem crossover on your TGP?  If it is OEM, then YES it is bad.
Nick
1989 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix- LG5 - 4T60HD
2008 Ford Ranger XLT- 2.3 DOHC I-4 - 5MT
2012 Nissan Altima SR coupe- 3.5 V6 - 6MT

Prospeeder

yea its bad, if you read where i seafoamed my car and smoke came POURING off the crossover. It will be sent off to Kenny (i think thats his name?) for the 365$ repair in a couple months
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2001 Audi S4 Stage 2
1999 VW Beetle
1997 BMW 740iL

TGP Nick

Yup its Kenny, and yes the x-over is bad- likely a cause of your problems. ;)
Nick
1989 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix- LG5 - 4T60HD
2008 Ford Ranger XLT- 2.3 DOHC I-4 - 5MT
2012 Nissan Altima SR coupe- 3.5 V6 - 6MT

Prospeeder

According to the scantool, its Idling at 800 RPMs, but it bounces from 800-850. But the car when you first start it the RPMS Rocket to 2100 or so RPMs and then go down, takes it like 20-30 seconds to go down to 1200 then when you put it in gear it imidiatly goes down to 800. Would leaky injectors do that? They suddenly get a fat dose of gas and the car idles high, it has long warm starts. i dunno, im gonna Find a Chevy Corsica or somthing to drive and repair this thing when warmer weather comes.
1990 TGP Chipped RU-1390 K&N
2001 Audi S4 Stage 2
1999 VW Beetle
1997 BMW 740iL

R Dubya

my low mileage TGP was doing the exact same things, would start idle real high and took forever to come down to a tolerable level.  I checked all the vaccum lines but what I did find as problems did not solve the idle issue.  I dropped $275 on a set of injectors and then found that mine were leaking under pressure when the engine was shut down, which caused not only a hard start but I think was making the car run a lot richer than it should have. 

All my injectors ohm'd properly too, so I don't know if that always tells of the problem, but you could always pull the rail and see if you can find a leaky one or six.   Good bet to replace injectors and x-over, if there are no massive vacuum leaks to speak of. 
Ryan Warren
'89 TGP
It doesn't run anymore.

Prospeeder

Was defintly on my list to replace all six injectors with 3800 ones. along with the cross over, and hopefully rebuild the turbo, i hear of alot of peoples just going out of nowhere, so il thought it would be wise.
1990 TGP Chipped RU-1390 K&N
2001 Audi S4 Stage 2
1999 VW Beetle
1997 BMW 740iL

Prospeeder

Im bringin this back, I have replaced my xover, and it runs better, i now replaced the Injectors with some brand new Ford 19lb injectors, and it STILL does the super high idle on start then it levels back down. Im trying an idle relearn, but it isnt fixing it. I no longer have the issues like driving itself, hard starts, or rough idle. But that annoying high idle is still there. i have traced and replaced any bad vacuum lines and cannot find a leak anywhere. Ive tried 3 different IAC motors also.
1990 TGP Chipped RU-1390 K&N
2001 Audi S4 Stage 2
1999 VW Beetle
1997 BMW 740iL

TGP Nick

Have you taken off your throttle body and cleaned it?  When you do that, don't forget to replace the TB gasket.

Cleaning out my TB helped my car idle MUCH better.  It was very dirty though.
Nick
1989 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix- LG5 - 4T60HD
2008 Ford Ranger XLT- 2.3 DOHC I-4 - 5MT
2012 Nissan Altima SR coupe- 3.5 V6 - 6MT

Prospeeder

i didnt remove it, but i have seafoamed through the vacuum lines before, and cleaned it all up with TB cleaner before. I tried to freakin idle relear, idle in drive for 5-7 min, then shut off for 10 seconds, restart for 5 min then shut off. and its still doing it....
1990 TGP Chipped RU-1390 K&N
2001 Audi S4 Stage 2
1999 VW Beetle
1997 BMW 740iL

dogbone

#24
I had the same problem and I put in a new ECM and then did an idle re-learn and no more idle problems.
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grinders_18

I agree with the ECM fixing the idle...had that happen too. If not that, then check out the Throttle Position Sensor.

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GutlessSupreme

I swapped ECMs, IACs, injectors, cleaned the TB, checked vacuum lines, all sorts of stuff. After I got the TSTE back together the idle was very high, and if I remember right it had gotten better but still seemed to idle really high occasionally. One more problem I'm looking forward to once the Getrag's taken care of :rolleyes:
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Prospeeder

is the ECM swappable from any 3.1 Car? Just need my PROM. right?
1990 TGP Chipped RU-1390 K&N
2001 Audi S4 Stage 2
1999 VW Beetle
1997 BMW 740iL

grinders_18

Any 3.1 W-Body, maybe any 3.1 car. Just make sure you switch out the Memcal/EPROM.

This radio station was renamed Krenzy in honor of the last American hero to whom speed means freedom of the soul. The question is not when he's gonna stop, but who is gonna stop him.

grinders_18

Easy to do, too. Took me all of maybe 10 minutes in the cold to do it.

This radio station was renamed Krenzy in honor of the last American hero to whom speed means freedom of the soul. The question is not when he's gonna stop, but who is gonna stop him.