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Started by TGed, March 08, 2008, 02:42:16 PM

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TGed

If you could change ONE thing about the 3.1/2.8 engine what would you change?
What I would change is the way the valve cover is integrated into the lim to make a seal.  I know it's a 60* engine and all, but there's a way and GM was just to cheap to make it that much simpler to work on.  Some day when I get filthy rich I will make it happen.  :icon_lol:
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grinders_18

While it hasn't affacted me, I know it affects many other 3.1/2.8's, so the lifters.

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bake82

Probably fix the oiling issue to lobe 9/10 onthe cam.  Too many people have lost cams. 

Besides that, it would be simply allow the motor to rev higher, and hit a redline like the DOHC, but then again, that would totally change the design of the motor! 
Kyle


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TGed

Quote from: bake82 on March 08, 2008, 03:49:45 PM
Probably fix the oiling issue to lobe 9/10 onthe cam.  Too many people have lost cams. 
Yea I thought of that one too.... Although if you can make power down low and keep the R's down it'll last for a looong time.
Quote from: bake82 on March 08, 2008, 03:49:45 PM
Besides that, it would be simply allow the motor to rev higher, and hit a redline like the DOHC, but then again, that would totally change the design of the motor! 
If you fix'd the oiling issues to make it rev higher, you def need to change more than one thing (lim, uim, tb,exhaust manifolds, injectors, head ports, tune ...etc)
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cobracmdr

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Sure I'd change the manifold design so that the engine produced more HP instead of all torque the engine is not square too much torque and not enough HP they need to compliment each other.......and I'd give it a roller valvetrain with a forged crank/pistons so they can handle some high boost levels.

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TGed

That is not the question, please edit you post to reflect the subject.  Thanks!
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TGP Nick

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Quote from: bake82 on March 08, 2008, 03:49:45 PM
Probably fix the oiling issue to lobe 9/10 onthe cam.
x2 that worries me.

Also, it would be nice if the heat soak issue was fixed.. its soo hot in that engine bay!
Nick
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cobracmdr

Quote from: TGP Nick on March 08, 2008, 05:47:08 PM
Quote from: bake82 on March 08, 2008, 03:49:45 PM
Probably fix the oiling issue to lobe 9/10 onthe cam.
x2 that worries me.

Also, it would be nice if the heat soak issue was fixed.. its soo hot in that engine bay!

An aluminum block with a more efficient intercooler would help in that department

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2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 M6 12.01 @117 mph - Inferno Orange Metallic, long tubes, x pipe, Cat back, all 3" pipe 321 SS, vararam intake, LC-1, diy tune
01 Grand Prix GTP - 3.4 pulley, plog, k&n drop in, u-bend & resonator delete, tuned
03 Suzuki SV650N - zx10 shock, racetech springs/emulators, streetfighter

TGPvsTIII

I don't own a TGP but if they had a bigger TURBO I wouldn't be having so much trouble talking Jimmy into one.

For the guys that want a bigger intercooler look at the thread Kenny wrote about his shop being in a magazine he installed an alcohol injection system on that car in the article to bring intake temps down. Devilsown makes nice kits and it can be used to either add the fuel you need or shoot a little to bring intake temps down like a bigger intercooler would do. http://www.alcohol-injection.com/forum/ This is also what I want to talk Jimmy into instead of the bigger intercooler and all the plumbing work involved. It also would maintain a more stock appearance if you hide everything. Here is a link to the dodge site I go to in there alcohol injection section http://www.turbododge.com/forums/f59/ I don't know if it will let you view not being registered I think it should. You can get an ebay intercooler cheaper then this but not a spearco.

Hope I didn't get off track here.
Tim

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