Problems starting/running

Started by Bullet, April 05, 2008, 03:06:39 PM

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Bullet

here's the low down.
I've replaced the IAC, TPS, and O2...codes 44 and 45 are being thrown now.
but I just replaced the O2, the car wont start for some reason.

I'm going to be replacing the Ignition module and coil packs because they were a previous issue that I haven't been able to deal with yet due to the screws having rust on the tips and not wanting to come off.

clue/ideas?
any help would be great, Thanks a million!

also what would cause my STE to boggout at acceleration or putt putt at idle?
I'm thinking coils/module. let me know if I should check anything else.
I'm running up to ewalmart to get a new Fuel filter just for the hell of it.
I'll be back in about 30 minutes
1988 Fiero Base Coupe (The Show Car)
1992 Cameleon Firebird 305 T-Top 50k original miles

Quote from Shifter23 - "Money Talks, Bullshit Walks"

meltboy11

I wanted to say MAP... but 44 and 45 are O2...
http://autorepair.about.com/library/ts/obd-i/bl-dtcs-78.htm?once=true&
that site has the codes for 90, im sure it has 89 on there too but they are probably the same...
But I still really wanna say MAP
90 TGP ~70k miles 5/15
04 Wrangler 4.0 5 spd
Litchfield, NY

Bullet

wuups, forgot to put new map sensor down.....

and my problem isn't sensors at all.

my fuel pump is dead!! it was dieing before which is why my car didn't want to go anywhere or even idle that great.

my body from the J-Body club had the same issue with his 1989 Z24 2.8L 5-speed. he's the one that told me it qwas dea, and sure enough it was  :icon_mrgreen: not to happy about it, but I am thrilled that I can stop paying for all new sensors, ignition, and all the stuff I didn't need.

I'm scared to drop the gas tank, but hopefully somebody will help me do it, cuz I want it to be on the road again by Tuesday.

if anybody is within like 50 miles of me and is willing to help I'd pay for gas and pizza.
1988 Fiero Base Coupe (The Show Car)
1992 Cameleon Firebird 305 T-Top 50k original miles

Quote from Shifter23 - "Money Talks, Bullshit Walks"

grinders_18

Buy a Walbro 255, they are much better I'm told. I've never had to do one so I can't give any pointers...sorry  :icon_frown:

This radio station was renamed Krenzy in honor of the last American hero to whom speed means freedom of the soul. The question is not when he's gonna stop, but who is gonna stop him.

R Dubya

Ryan Warren
'89 TGP
It doesn't run anymore.

meltboy11

well glad you got a solution to your problem... I've never dropped the tank so I can't give ya any info, but hell, if you are close I would come give ya a hand... I like pizza...lol
90 TGP ~70k miles 5/15
04 Wrangler 4.0 5 spd
Litchfield, NY

grinders_18

He's near Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

This radio station was renamed Krenzy in honor of the last American hero to whom speed means freedom of the soul. The question is not when he's gonna stop, but who is gonna stop him.

cobracmdr

It is not that bad if the tank is near empty.......otherwise........you will want to siphon it out.....without getting gas in your mouth...... Undo the fuel lines comming in and out of the tanks......undo the goose neck going to fill on the side of the car. support the tank undo straps, lower tank take out pump by taking off hold down ring.  Use copper or a tool that will not spark when you are getting the ring off!  Such as a flat head wrapped in a towel or something.  Check out Kenny's post below.  It is not that bad, my friend did one at the gas station parking lot one time when on a road trip when his went out.  but he is crazy!

http://www.tgpforums.com/index.php?topic=3222.0


1989 Turbo Grand Prix - missed very much!!!!
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 M6 12.01 @117 mph - Inferno Orange Metallic, long tubes, x pipe, Cat back, all 3" pipe 321 SS, vararam intake, LC-1, diy tune
01 Grand Prix GTP - 3.4 pulley, plog, k&n drop in, u-bend & resonator delete, tuned
03 Suzuki SV650N - zx10 shock, racetech springs/emulators, streetfighter

pontiac6ksteawd

If you have any fuel pump activity, this is how you empty your tank out the easy way..

1) Take Schrader Valve cap off.
2) With a A/C schrader valve tool, and making sure the fuel system isnt pressureized, take the scrader valve out of the fuel rail.
3) Take a long piece of vacume hose, that fits snuggly over the schrader valve threads, and put it over the threads, and the other end into a gas can.
4) With the fuel pump hot wire (loose wire by the postive terminal on the drivers side strut tower), turn on the fuel pump, and let it drain itself dry.

This is also a easy way to give another car some gas that runs out. Done it a couple times with complete success.
The schrader valve removal tool can be had at most parts and tools store. I bought mine from advanced. It has a A/C style schrader tool on one end, and a standard schrader valve tool on the other.
Brian - Carpe Diem

I dont have to love my president, or any god, to love my country!!
More people have died in the name of "God" than in all wars combined thruout history..
01 Pontiac Aztek GT 123k - 04 GMC Envoy XUV SLT V8 99k - 05 Mercury Montego Premier AWD 52k

cobracmdr

Quote from: pontiac6ksteawd on April 06, 2008, 03:04:29 AM
If you have any fuel pump activity, this is how you empty your tank out the easy way..

1) Take Schrader Valve cap off.
2) With a A/C schrader valve tool, and making sure the fuel system isnt pressureized, take the scrader valve out of the fuel rail.
3) Take a long piece of vacume hose, that fits snuggly over the schrader valve threads, and put it over the threads, and the other end into a gas can.
4) With the fuel pump hot wire (loose wire by the postive terminal on the drivers side strut tower), turn on the fuel pump, and let it drain itself dry.

This is also a easy way to give another car some gas that runs out. Done it a couple times with complete success.
The schrader valve removal tool can be had at most parts and tools store. I bought mine from advanced. It has a A/C style schrader tool on one end, and a standard schrader valve tool on the other.

Great idea!

1989 Turbo Grand Prix - missed very much!!!!
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 M6 12.01 @117 mph - Inferno Orange Metallic, long tubes, x pipe, Cat back, all 3" pipe 321 SS, vararam intake, LC-1, diy tune
01 Grand Prix GTP - 3.4 pulley, plog, k&n drop in, u-bend & resonator delete, tuned
03 Suzuki SV650N - zx10 shock, racetech springs/emulators, streetfighter

Bullet

thanks guys. I'm dropping my tank starting now, it has roughly 4 gallons of gas in it, but the gas gauge says it's on empty and the light is on...
well I'm gonna get right back on it now, I'll post updates every couple hours to show my progress.

I think I'll take pics as I go, that way other newbies will know what to do  :icon_idea:
1988 Fiero Base Coupe (The Show Car)
1992 Cameleon Firebird 305 T-Top 50k original miles

Quote from Shifter23 - "Money Talks, Bullshit Walks"

meltboy11

90 TGP ~70k miles 5/15
04 Wrangler 4.0 5 spd
Litchfield, NY

Bullet

MY TSTE works!!!!  it was just a vacuum leak. HAHAHAHAHA

all that back breaking work for a whole week straight and it was only a vacuum leak.
I feel a happy kid who just got his first bike...lol  :drool:
1988 Fiero Base Coupe (The Show Car)
1992 Cameleon Firebird 305 T-Top 50k original miles

Quote from Shifter23 - "Money Talks, Bullshit Walks"

grinders_18

Way to go Steve! Glad you figured it out!

This radio station was renamed Krenzy in honor of the last American hero to whom speed means freedom of the soul. The question is not when he's gonna stop, but who is gonna stop him.

meltboy11

don't ya love it when it's something stupid... lol
90 TGP ~70k miles 5/15
04 Wrangler 4.0 5 spd
Litchfield, NY