Nick's Rolling TGP Thread

Started by TGP Nick, April 13, 2008, 05:31:20 PM

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jimmy

#105
    Let us know what you find Nick,

killinprixs

when you put the upper motor mount bracket back on you probably pinched some wires down behind where the AC compressor bolts on, thats right where the CPS wires and Oil pressure sender wires are-  if any of those wires got pinched and got "grounded" out, your probably not going to run or start.  Another thing to consider, if the oil sending unit wires got pinched, your fuel pump will not prime or run because the ECM will thing theres NO oil in it.  This has happend and you wouldnt be the first.   My buddy did a Lower intake manifold gaset on his brothers 3100, all the electrical harness were ziptied all fancy for some reason, well,  he snipped the CPS harness right in half thinking it was a ziptie, didnt even notice, he gets done and calls me up , hey i really need you up here my brothers gonna kill me, the car just cranks and cranks i dont know what i did...  i get there, no spark, i finally see the CPS wires cut in half(ICM was on top) , got out the electric tape and cutters out, had the thing running in 5 minutes...good thing his buddy was  a 3.1 guy... saved that kids ass that day.

Bullet

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Quote from: grandprixagain on June 25, 2008, 10:22:02 PM
when you put the upper motor mount bracket back on you probably pinched some wires down behind where the AC compressor bolts on, thats right where the CPS wires and Oil pressure sender wires are-  if any of those wires got pinched and got "grounded" out, your probably not going to run or start.  Another thing to consider, if the oil sending unit wires got pinched, your fuel pump will not prime or run because the ECM will thing theres NO oil in it.  This has happend and you wouldnt be the first.   My buddy did a Lower intake manifold gaset on his brothers 3100, all the electrical harness were ziptied all fancy for some reason, well,  he snipped the CPS harness right in half thinking it was a ziptie, didnt even notice, he gets done and calls me up , hey i really need you up here my brothers gonna kill me, the car just cranks and cranks i dont know what i did...  i get there, no spark, i finally see the CPS wires cut in half(ICM was on top) , got out the electric tape and cutters out, had the thing running in 5 minutes...good thing his buddy was  a 3.1 guy... saved that kids ass that day.

x2
and good thing you picked up or he would've been screwed...lol
1988 Fiero Base Coupe (The Show Car)
1992 Cameleon Firebird 305 T-Top 50k original miles

Quote from Shifter23 - "Money Talks, Bullshit Walks"

TGP Nick

UPDATE

As of 4:00 PM, my TGP runs again!!

My neighbor knows a bit about electrical and had some electrical testing equipment, and we traced it to the CPS-to-ICM wire harness.  We found that the wires had gotten pinched behind my alternator bracket and that was shorting it out.  We cut out the bad pieces of wire, soldered in new wires, re-wrapped it, taped it, and put it back in the plastic wire coupler.  After that, we put it together and she fired right up.

I finally got to drive the car around today.  The motor sounds so much better now, much quieter and runs very smoothly.  I still need to put in my new sparkplugs and new O2 sensor, but it is running great nevertheless.
With the new valvetrain parts, I didn't want to get on her too hard until its broken in, but I can already tell it has a LOT more power than before.  The most I got on it today was about 1/4 throttle.  This is also the first time I have ever heard my turbo spool :icon_eek:  Up until now, I had the stock TGP intake on it, and if I was lucky on a nice day, I could hear the turbo at WOT at 7 psi.. I didn't always get to hear the faint whistle :laugh:  I love the intake noise it has now..  Now I have a K&N X-Stream filter on the turbo, and I have my Gen 1 DSM BOV on there.  I can't wait until she's all broken in so I can try it out at full boost and hear that BOV! :icon_twisted:
Whew I'm excited!

The only problem that came up while I was driving it today was that code 14 kept coming up.  The coolant temp sensors are plugged in, so maybe I have a bad sensor.  I will have to take another look at it tomorrow.  I was too excited to drive it to take a look at it today :laugh:

Thanks for standing by me with this guys. :icon_cool: 
Nick
1989 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix- LG5 - 4T60HD
2008 Ford Ranger XLT- 2.3 DOHC I-4 - 5MT
2012 Nissan Altima SR coupe- 3.5 V6 - 6MT

mfewtrail

Glad ya' got it fixed. ;) Going from the stock intake to a K&N makes a huge difference in sound. :icon_mrgreen:
'93 SE, '90 Black/tan TGP, & '90 Red/tan TGP


grinders_18

Kick ass, Nick!!!! Glad to hear you got it back up and running. One of my guesses was right it seems! I thought the wires were being pinched....or maybe you suggested it to me and I agreed but either way I believed it lol. Damn glad it's running.

NOW....when I come back up there I wanna ride in that beast! Maybe I'll be sporting a new car by then!

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meltboy11

well it's about damn time... lol
good for you, glad it's runnin, and even more glad it was something stupid that didn't really cost ya!
90 TGP ~70k miles 5/15
04 Wrangler 4.0 5 spd
Litchfield, NY

Bullet

YAY!!!!  :icon_mrgreen: :cheers:
1988 Fiero Base Coupe (The Show Car)
1992 Cameleon Firebird 305 T-Top 50k original miles

Quote from Shifter23 - "Money Talks, Bullshit Walks"

cobracmdr

hopefully working with your neighbor helped you learn a few things about troubleshooting/electrical repair.  It won't be as hard the second time now...

Ken

1989 Turbo Grand Prix - missed very much!!!!
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 M6 12.01 @117 mph - Inferno Orange Metallic, long tubes, x pipe, Cat back, all 3" pipe 321 SS, vararam intake, LC-1, diy tune
01 Grand Prix GTP - 3.4 pulley, plog, k&n drop in, u-bend & resonator delete, tuned
03 Suzuki SV650N - zx10 shock, racetech springs/emulators, streetfighter


TGP Nick

Quote from: cobracmdr on June 27, 2008, 11:46:09 AM
hopefully working with your neighbor helped you learn a few things about troubleshooting/electrical repair.  It won't be as hard the second time now...

Ken
Lets hope there isn't a second time.. lol
Nick
1989 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix- LG5 - 4T60HD
2008 Ford Ranger XLT- 2.3 DOHC I-4 - 5MT
2012 Nissan Altima SR coupe- 3.5 V6 - 6MT

Bullet

Quote from: TGP Nick on June 27, 2008, 05:33:21 PM
Quote from: cobracmdr on June 27, 2008, 11:46:09 AM
hopefully working with your neighbor helped you learn a few things about troubleshooting/electrical repair.  It won't be as hard the second time now...

Ken
Lets hope there isn't a second time.. lol

X2
but god forbid if there is you know where to get the help from...  :icon_mrgreen:
1988 Fiero Base Coupe (The Show Car)
1992 Cameleon Firebird 305 T-Top 50k original miles

Quote from Shifter23 - "Money Talks, Bullshit Walks"

TGP Nick

Update

I now have ~230 miles on it.  Yesterday I put in new AC Delco R42LTS plugs gapped at ~.028-.030" and replaced my O2 sensor with a new AC Delco O2.  While I was taking the old plugs out, I did a compression test on all the cylinders and they are all right about 160 PSI.  What kind of compression should these engines have?

I'm trying to sort out the last couple issues the car has right now, and a new one popped up a couple days ago.  As soon as I start up the car, there is a whining/groaning noise coming from the drivers side of the car.. it almost sounds like it is coming from the turbo.  The turbo is fairly new, replaced in 2006 and has ~6,000 miles on it.  I know it is probably hard to diagnose this noise just from the above info, but any ideas on what could be making this noise?

Also, another thing I have noticed is: as soon as I start the car, the intercooler fan starts up right away and runs constantly until I shut the car off.  I have no codes and I am now running Kenny's Hot Tune chip.  Is the chip programmed to make the IC fan run constantly?
Nick
1989 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix- LG5 - 4T60HD
2008 Ford Ranger XLT- 2.3 DOHC I-4 - 5MT
2012 Nissan Altima SR coupe- 3.5 V6 - 6MT

Bullet

Nick, the groaning noise you're hearing could just be your brake pump cycling.
it happened with my TSTE.
1988 Fiero Base Coupe (The Show Car)
1992 Cameleon Firebird 305 T-Top 50k original miles

Quote from Shifter23 - "Money Talks, Bullshit Walks"