blown turbo questions

Started by NTRCOOL, August 18, 2008, 11:02:28 PM

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NTRCOOL

I just blew my second high milage Spare turbo in the same car. Three all together between my tgps, and the shafts one has excessive shaft play, most recent a good 1/4in of play the second sheared the impeller in two and blew the bearings out the exhaust side. So the question is are they rebuildable or should i just break down and upgrade to a t-3.
NTRCOOL

1989 RED TGP interior gutted for racing, hard top, added a wing from GTP, MSD ignition, chip from flybynite, K&N air filter.
1990 RED TGP leather intr, moon roof, needs just bout everything
1990 BLACK TGP cloth intr, aftrmrkt moon roof
1977 Chevy Caprice areo back coupe soon to have Cadillac 500cuin.
1980 olds 98 coupe
1993 Ford Festiva GL
1998 Jeep Cherokee XJ, 3" Rough country lift
1987 Buick LeSabere T-Type
1990 Cadillac brougham

grinders_18

You can upgrade to a T-28 Hybrid, consisting of T-28 wheels and shafts, inside the T-25 shell. Bolts right back up and if you're able to install a 360 degree thrust bearing, you ensure the longevity of the turbo.

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cobracmdr

If you screwed up the center bearing housing you are sol.  They don't make replacements anymore for T25's.  You will have to upgrade or get one of those cheepo chinese knockoff turbo's on Ebay.  Good luck!

Ken

1989 Turbo Grand Prix - missed very much!!!!
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 M6 12.01 @117 mph - Inferno Orange Metallic, long tubes, x pipe, Cat back, all 3" pipe 321 SS, vararam intake, LC-1, diy tune
01 Grand Prix GTP - 3.4 pulley, plog, k&n drop in, u-bend & resonator delete, tuned
03 Suzuki SV650N - zx10 shock, racetech springs/emulators, streetfighter

NTRCOOL

Ok guys I'll have shifter23 help me tear those turbos down and inspect them here in the next couple of weeks and see where I stand. Also where can I find those T-28 upgrades at?
NTRCOOL

1989 RED TGP interior gutted for racing, hard top, added a wing from GTP, MSD ignition, chip from flybynite, K&N air filter.
1990 RED TGP leather intr, moon roof, needs just bout everything
1990 BLACK TGP cloth intr, aftrmrkt moon roof
1977 Chevy Caprice areo back coupe soon to have Cadillac 500cuin.
1980 olds 98 coupe
1993 Ford Festiva GL
1998 Jeep Cherokee XJ, 3" Rough country lift
1987 Buick LeSabere T-Type
1990 Cadillac brougham

grinders_18

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Buy the parts and do the work yourself to save money. Excellent quality and great to deal with!

This radio station was renamed Krenzy in honor of the last American hero to whom speed means freedom of the soul. The question is not when he's gonna stop, but who is gonna stop him.

NTRCOOL

How do you press the bearings out of the center housing without taking it to a machine shop
NTRCOOL

1989 RED TGP interior gutted for racing, hard top, added a wing from GTP, MSD ignition, chip from flybynite, K&N air filter.
1990 RED TGP leather intr, moon roof, needs just bout everything
1990 BLACK TGP cloth intr, aftrmrkt moon roof
1977 Chevy Caprice areo back coupe soon to have Cadillac 500cuin.
1980 olds 98 coupe
1993 Ford Festiva GL
1998 Jeep Cherokee XJ, 3" Rough country lift
1987 Buick LeSabere T-Type
1990 Cadillac brougham

cobracmdr

Quote from: NTRCOOL on December 21, 2008, 03:55:49 PM
How do you press the bearings out of the center housing without taking it to a machine shop

They are held in there with snap rings. take those out and use a small screwdriver to pop the bearings out.

Ken

1989 Turbo Grand Prix - missed very much!!!!
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 M6 12.01 @117 mph - Inferno Orange Metallic, long tubes, x pipe, Cat back, all 3" pipe 321 SS, vararam intake, LC-1, diy tune
01 Grand Prix GTP - 3.4 pulley, plog, k&n drop in, u-bend & resonator delete, tuned
03 Suzuki SV650N - zx10 shock, racetech springs/emulators, streetfighter

GPChief

#7
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/eclturbos.htm

You may need to do some tinkering to make it work but there is the Big16 or Big 28 upgrade as an option also.
2004 GTP -  3.8 Blown - Only modding for MPG.
1997 GTP  - 3.8 Blown - Too many mods to list.
1996 GTP - 3.4 DOHC - Twin to my 1997.
1995 SE - soon to be a 3.8 turbo car.
1990 TSTE x 2 white cloth
1990 TSTE x 1 maroon leather
1990 TGP - 5 speed.

cobracmdr

I wrote this last year how to rebuild a T25.  Might provide you some help.

http://www.60degreev6.com/content/HOWTO_Rebuild_T25

Ken

1989 Turbo Grand Prix - missed very much!!!!
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 M6 12.01 @117 mph - Inferno Orange Metallic, long tubes, x pipe, Cat back, all 3" pipe 321 SS, vararam intake, LC-1, diy tune
01 Grand Prix GTP - 3.4 pulley, plog, k&n drop in, u-bend & resonator delete, tuned
03 Suzuki SV650N - zx10 shock, racetech springs/emulators, streetfighter

NTRCOOL

Hey guys another question same subject different car. My black tgp that I bought off ebay. back in the fall I found out the turbo is frozen solid the shaft won't turn at all It was like that when I bought it. Is a turbo rebuidable if it is in that state of........well screwed? :icon_confused:
NTRCOOL

1989 RED TGP interior gutted for racing, hard top, added a wing from GTP, MSD ignition, chip from flybynite, K&N air filter.
1990 RED TGP leather intr, moon roof, needs just bout everything
1990 BLACK TGP cloth intr, aftrmrkt moon roof
1977 Chevy Caprice areo back coupe soon to have Cadillac 500cuin.
1980 olds 98 coupe
1993 Ford Festiva GL
1998 Jeep Cherokee XJ, 3" Rough country lift
1987 Buick LeSabere T-Type
1990 Cadillac brougham

cobracmdr

Quote from: NTRCOOL on March 31, 2009, 12:52:58 AM
Hey guys another question same subject different car. My black tgp that I bought off ebay. back in the fall I found out the turbo is frozen solid the shaft won't turn at all It was like that when I bought it. Is a turbo rebuidable if it is in that state of........well screwed? :icon_confused:

Can't tell unless you take it apart and inspect it.  If it is seized you are probably screwed.  Start looking for T25's on Ebay and piece one together or buy a GT series from Garrett and never worry about it again.
Ken

1989 Turbo Grand Prix - missed very much!!!!
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 M6 12.01 @117 mph - Inferno Orange Metallic, long tubes, x pipe, Cat back, all 3" pipe 321 SS, vararam intake, LC-1, diy tune
01 Grand Prix GTP - 3.4 pulley, plog, k&n drop in, u-bend & resonator delete, tuned
03 Suzuki SV650N - zx10 shock, racetech springs/emulators, streetfighter

NTRCOOL

Hey quick question bout wastegate vs. bov do you need the wastegate if you have a blow off valve or would that be pushing what bad luck I normally run into?
NTRCOOL

1989 RED TGP interior gutted for racing, hard top, added a wing from GTP, MSD ignition, chip from flybynite, K&N air filter.
1990 RED TGP leather intr, moon roof, needs just bout everything
1990 BLACK TGP cloth intr, aftrmrkt moon roof
1977 Chevy Caprice areo back coupe soon to have Cadillac 500cuin.
1980 olds 98 coupe
1993 Ford Festiva GL
1998 Jeep Cherokee XJ, 3" Rough country lift
1987 Buick LeSabere T-Type
1990 Cadillac brougham

Prospeeder

A waste gate controls the exhaust gasses to control the amount of boost produced. The BOV just releases all the pressure if you suddenly let up off the gas, as all the pressure rushes out the turbo and is hard on the bearings. not for controlling boost
1990 TGP Chipped RU-1390 K&N
2001 Audi S4 Stage 2
1999 VW Beetle
1997 BMW 740iL

GutlessSupreme

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NTRCOOL

Cool thanks It was one of those small bad ideas in the back of my head I need to kill with someone elses knowledge.
NTRCOOL

1989 RED TGP interior gutted for racing, hard top, added a wing from GTP, MSD ignition, chip from flybynite, K&N air filter.
1990 RED TGP leather intr, moon roof, needs just bout everything
1990 BLACK TGP cloth intr, aftrmrkt moon roof
1977 Chevy Caprice areo back coupe soon to have Cadillac 500cuin.
1980 olds 98 coupe
1993 Ford Festiva GL
1998 Jeep Cherokee XJ, 3" Rough country lift
1987 Buick LeSabere T-Type
1990 Cadillac brougham