Twin TGP

Started by flybynite, January 18, 2009, 07:58:15 PM

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flybynite

I am seriously considering doing a twin turbo set up for the TGP, Just curious if any body else has tried it.. I installed the manual (mock up only) and there might be enough room for a GT2876R behind the trans or most definitely under the car, Just curious what you guys think.. I know it doable...  :icon_twisted:
1989 TGP Pace Car
1990 TGP Red/Tan Leather

GPChief

Sounds like it would be cool.
2004 GTP -  3.8 Blown - Only modding for MPG.
1997 GTP  - 3.8 Blown - Too many mods to list.
1996 GTP - 3.4 DOHC - Twin to my 1997.
1995 SE - soon to be a 3.8 turbo car.
1990 TSTE x 2 white cloth
1990 TSTE x 1 maroon leather
1990 TGP - 5 speed.

meltboy11

DO EEEEET I would love to see that.
90 TGP ~70k miles 5/15
04 Wrangler 4.0 5 spd
Litchfield, NY


mfewtrail

If I were you, I'd probably just upgrade to a larger single turbo(that's my plan for later anyways).
'93 SE, '90 Black/tan TGP, & '90 Red/tan TGP

cobracmdr

Twin turbos will spool up faster and if you size them right Adam you can have one which will give excellent off the line response and then a larger one for top end power.  Like the 3000 GT VR4 or other imports.  That would be awsome but I'm too chicken shit for that kind of thing with my DD.  Oh who am I kidding I'll spring for it if you make it;)  I would need a manual trans conversion, oh wait I sold mine to you! hahaha

Ken

1989 Turbo Grand Prix - missed very much!!!!
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 M6 12.01 @117 mph - Inferno Orange Metallic, long tubes, x pipe, Cat back, all 3" pipe 321 SS, vararam intake, LC-1, diy tune
01 Grand Prix GTP - 3.4 pulley, plog, k&n drop in, u-bend & resonator delete, tuned
03 Suzuki SV650N - zx10 shock, racetech springs/emulators, streetfighter

killinprixs

will someone please make one of these cars fast???

GPChief

Quote from: killinprixs on January 20, 2009, 05:07:31 PM
will someone please make one of these cars fast???

GT3071R plus 3400 top end plus 3500 UM, plus (KAZ tune)...........wont say I'll be the fastest, but until it blows up I'll be trying. :icon_mrgreen: (I'm taking all of March to "finish" this car) will post some pics as I am finishing it.
2004 GTP -  3.8 Blown - Only modding for MPG.
1997 GTP  - 3.8 Blown - Too many mods to list.
1996 GTP - 3.4 DOHC - Twin to my 1997.
1995 SE - soon to be a 3.8 turbo car.
1990 TSTE x 2 white cloth
1990 TSTE x 1 maroon leather
1990 TGP - 5 speed.

slick94prix

Besides for the cool and wow factor, which both I would gleefully give, I guess my only question is why? It seems like you would have much more piping, more oil lines, another turbo, etc.... Just seems like a lot of money that could be put into a better single turbo setup.
Chris
- 1996 Pontiac Firebird, LT1 T56, 88k miles. Chameleon Blue Green on charcoal cloth. A base bird with a v8 and a manual trans.

- 2000 Bonneville SE: Silver on Charcoal Leather, pretty much every option on an SE. Current situation- Lots of miles and adding more daily

cobracmdr

Well for one the crossover cluster fuck on our cars is hardly optimal for merging exhaust gasses to make the most optimal power.  By having a TT setup each manifold could flow to a turbo getting rid of all the exhaust gasses bouncing off each other on the way to the turbo.  Then the exhaust can go straight out the back off the turbo and not down by the powermaster.  Sure another set of oil and coolant lines big deal,  You can run a turbo without coolant lines if you have proper oil cooling in place and maybe even higher capacity of oil.  It would be more complicated but I give Adam props for thinking outside the box.  I suggest you guys read a book called maximum boost you will learn all the ins and outs of turbocharging systems.

Ken

1989 Turbo Grand Prix - missed very much!!!!
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 M6 12.01 @117 mph - Inferno Orange Metallic, long tubes, x pipe, Cat back, all 3" pipe 321 SS, vararam intake, LC-1, diy tune
01 Grand Prix GTP - 3.4 pulley, plog, k&n drop in, u-bend & resonator delete, tuned
03 Suzuki SV650N - zx10 shock, racetech springs/emulators, streetfighter

flybynite

Quote from: mfewtrail on January 19, 2009, 10:27:49 PM
If I were you, I'd probably just upgrade to a larger single turbo(that's my plan for later anyways).
Single turbo = lag    I have been down that road before.. I would like my car to spool before 3-3.5k..  I am thinking of using the stock turbo + a GT2876R for the best results.. Like Ken said one would get me going down low and the other would come in @ 3-3.5k and get things moving.. Plus 400hp at the wheels would be easier to do and less strain on the engine... Not to mention I would have the only TTGP in the world... 12s in the quarter would be a lot more doable also..   :icon_mrgreen:     I also just started a project on my IROC-Z,  I have a used Twin Turbo set up for it. I am planning on boosting a 434 CID motor. With my calculations it will make 750rwhp @ 6psi of boost with 12psi being the max...Ummm  can you say fun....
1989 TGP Pace Car
1990 TGP Red/Tan Leather

cobracmdr


1989 Turbo Grand Prix - missed very much!!!!
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 M6 12.01 @117 mph - Inferno Orange Metallic, long tubes, x pipe, Cat back, all 3" pipe 321 SS, vararam intake, LC-1, diy tune
01 Grand Prix GTP - 3.4 pulley, plog, k&n drop in, u-bend & resonator delete, tuned
03 Suzuki SV650N - zx10 shock, racetech springs/emulators, streetfighter

killinprixs

Adams goin for 9s....

slick94prix

Quote from: cobracmdr on January 20, 2009, 09:13:53 PM
Well for one the crossover cluster fuck on our cars is hardly optimal for merging exhaust gasses to make the most optimal power.  By having a TT setup each manifold could flow to a turbo getting rid of all the exhaust gasses bouncing off each other on the way to the turbo.  Then the exhaust can go straight out the back off the turbo and not down by the powermaster.  Sure another set of oil and coolant lines big deal,  You can run a turbo without coolant lines if you have proper oil cooling in place and maybe even higher capacity of oil.  It would be more complicated but I give Adam props for thinking outside the box.  I suggest you guys read a book called maximum boost you will learn all the ins and outs of turbocharging systems.

Ken

Owned it for the last 4 years, and have read it through and through several times  :laugh:

Yeah, I totally agree, however, and correct me if I am wrong here, would the 3500 heads enough flow enough to allow that much through? Then you got to take the intake manifolds into consideration, which are crazy bottlenecks. However, if he is going for that fast of time, I'm quite positive nothing will even be remotely stock about them.

Also, if you have a smaller turbo on one bank, and a larger on another, wouldn't you experience a slight pulsation in the air from the turbos since one would flow xCFM, the other flowing a larger xCFM?
Chris
- 1996 Pontiac Firebird, LT1 T56, 88k miles. Chameleon Blue Green on charcoal cloth. A base bird with a v8 and a manual trans.

- 2000 Bonneville SE: Silver on Charcoal Leather, pretty much every option on an SE. Current situation- Lots of miles and adding more daily

TGed

This is how the exhaust would be planned out.

http://www.tgpforums.com/index.php/topic,5214.msg38936.html#new

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