Well, you might want to check this out.

http://www.turboz24.com

This guy ran like a 12 something quarter last time out, and the ECU wasn't even working right (it was only running on like 10 degrees total timing!).  This was at a low boost setting too!  I think he said the car will do 11's without breaking a sweat.

Jason

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http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1482132.jpg

Were this the ones.

Curtis definitely knows his stuff, he's the one that guided me through making critical decisions about my motor.  He's just dissappointed i couldn't afford to finish it (I got laid off for 6 months, and uncle sam wasn't paying for the car to be finished)....

I was looking to spend somewhere around $600 for exhaustwork, but now that i've seen this Beretta mount, i'm going to find a damn beretta, steal the mount, and weld it on if i have to...  i need that mount, and i need it in my car.  I'm going out hunting, even though its 36 degrees, thers snow covering everything, and i really shouldn't.

Off to find a beretta... wish me luck, i think this is gonna save me a fortune right here.

BTW:  Did your stock TGP downpipe bolt up to your stock exhaust?

Oh yeah, by the way, the TGP motor used 22 lb fuel injectors stock, i think the ones in the 3.3 / 3.8 are both the same 27 lb, which will explain your real rich streak.  Try getting 3100 injectors out of a newer 3.1 liter enigne -- same deal as the TGP ones.  At least you got the TGP FPR, which is different than the stock.

-- Lee

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was this the wastegate that you were talking about? $120 is the asking price on this site. relentlessracing(.)com. They have all sorts of stuff I need for the turbo should I do a swap with the rebuild kit for the t3.

yep!

Skalor: no i don't have one handy.

Okay, no luck today, here's what i need to know

1) are you guys familiar at all with the j-body platform / chasis?

I'm looking to sort of do the same thing that was done with the beretta to a cavalier, the main thing preventing me from putting the turbo in the stock location (besides ABS) is the darned engine mount -- if i could get this beretta mount and put it in place (modified or not) this would give me the ability to use a much less expensive (as i am still striving to get out of debt) alternative, to which i have 90% of all the parts, rather than 20% of all the parts..


Does anyone have the '93-96 application that this mount can be found on?  I'm bolting this up to the newer transmission on the cavalier (not the HM282, although its got the same casing, and same bolt pattern -- just has the hydraulic bearing in it rather than the clutch fork setup)...  So, what parts will i need from a beretta to convert this.  Anyone got any part numbers?

I'm so psyched (which is incredible, as the cars been parked for months without me even wanting to look at it)...

Please, help!!! :)

Here's what I did to the dp to fit on the Beretta to fit correctly on the car.
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I got my trans mount from a trans that was already out from someone taking the engine only on the berreta, later I went for the fender wall bracket from a corsica that had the engine and trans removed. Saves a lot of work looking for cars like this aready unbolted for you. I went to a pick your part self serv yard (Pick-n-pull) for thiese. YOu can go to a yard that has the trans removed and tell them to just sell you the brackets and mount for you so you won't have to do any removing. The bracket thats spot welded to the fender wall you will have to remove yourself with a chissel, hammer, sledge, and crow bar. Not a eazy task since you can't use power tools in this yard. :(

I don't know if it would work for the 5 speeds.

If it's spot welded, just bring a drill and a drill bit a little larger than the spot welds.  Drill in the center of the spot welds, and it should come off real easy.

Jason

Hrm...  I do have a mini cordless rotary tool kit, maybe i can use the carbide bits to cut through and stuff.  The guys at my yard are familiar with me, i practically spent a summer in there just looking at cars and taking shit apart and getting piece by piece for my convertible.. lol, so, i'm sure if i said "can i take a pickup with a generator and a few tools back there" they'd be like "yeah, just don't light the place up"

I already do have a generator, and my friends got a pickup...   i could always just try and get a N.O.S. one from GM, i just didn't know the application.

How does this bracket you took off the berretta's transmission mount onto your transmission?  Does it bolt to the casing, or does it bolt to the transmission its self.  I'm going to have to do some more research, but now that i can look for a corsica or beretta 5 speed in years 93+ (which is good, because my cars a '93, and the beretta has the same transmission if its a 5 speed) and steal the bracketry from that.   The best part about the junkyard is you don't have to care about anything more than the parts that you want.

I'm also wondering if this new mount has a rubber isolator on it, or if its solid.  I may just have to weld that mount solid, as i'm getting two other solid mounts.  (I'm gonna have it welded REAL good!)



-- Lee

Okay, that doesn't look like its gonna jive too well with my fenderwell area, my fenderwell goes a lot farther down closer to the subframe than i thought.  

I talked to Curtis Walker (http://www.turboz24.com/) about Rick Bolwell's car (Cavalier with a 3.8 s/c with a 5 speed), and in this application they used a W-body 5 speed mount , and fabbed a mounting plate

Does anyone here have a 5 speed W-body mount handy?  I figure if i can get this mount on there, i'll be in slightly better shape..

-- Lee

Now looking at Curtis site again, I looked at the part of where it says engine bay waiting for engine or something like that and the pic where he shows the intake pipe at the bottom of the car by the fender being made at the shop. That bracket looks to be intergrated with the fender. You could cut it where it sticks out to mount the beretta mount. I'll e-mail you on what I mean.

Yeah, thats what i'm wondering...  how this is all going to fit (or if its going to fit correctly in a j-body platform... the corsica was roughly related to your platform)...

If someone could get me one of those plates i'd love it. however, i'm going for more or less a removable solution.  i would have to weld a mounting plate to the subframe... and use a W-body mount so i'm told.

-- Lee
BTW:  My sites been down as well as e-mail, however, i just got it all back up a few minutes ago, so if you did send me mail, please re-e-mail it!

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I went to the salvage yard today(no date today guys  :( ). I look at a Cavi exacly like yours (convertible,3.1,but had an auto). I looked at the mounts and they are like what the beretta had. I looked at another cavi with a 5spd. Z24 like curtis. I see that the braket mounts to the top. I've then saw that the 5spd almost comes out thrugh the fenderwall. That beretta mount won't work.

I did however looked at a Fiero with the 2.8 and 5spd. Those mounts look like they would work. They are connected to the enginecradle-prob the same as the w-body ones-didn't see any 5spd w-bodys today.  You could use those Fiero mounts and go from there if you haven't already done the exhoust.

Seeing that picture above reminds me of something.  You guys with ABS wanting to put the turbo in... there is a pretty good chance you can't use the stock TGP crossover and stock turbo location.  My Cutlass had that ABS and I had to switch back to the normal brakes because the turbo wouldn't fit.  That ABS master cylinder/valve assembly is way too big.  Unless your master cylinder is mounted farther away than the w body one...but it doesn't look like it.

Jason

Ha now thinking about my day at the yard.. I saw two T-bird turbo coupes with the ICI turbo. They look small and should work well if I do the twin turbo setup. But I still have plans for the T3 since it might be easier.

Me posting this late...yea..had a good date... 8) Hot chick customer from work anyone?