Who Has A Jeff M. or Kenny K. X-Over??

Started by 89BlackTGP, April 30, 2010, 01:27:12 PM

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89BlackTGP

Ok guys.. Looking for someone that has a Jeff M. or Kenny K. X-over because i need measurements.. I am in the process to start rebuilding these X-overs so there is at least someone out the again that is rebuilding them for the people that are intrested in buying one to replace there leaky one..

Well i need measurements of the bellows that were used.. I cannot find for the life of me what ones they used or the sizes.. So if you could kindly measure one for me if you can get to it id appreciate it.. If you have a Jeff M. or Kenny K. x-over let me know and ill tell you what measurements ill need..

I have 3 X-overs ready for repair, 1 currently that i took apart that had the heat shield was NOT cracked, 1 X-over with a cracked Bellow, and 1 X-over that i cut the bellows off and ready to weld in the new bellows that i cannot currently find..
1996 Pontiac Grand Prix SE 3100/4T60-E (Black)

1995 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP 3.4 DOHC/4T60-E (White)

1990 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix 3.1/4T60 (Black)

GPChief

I have one of each, however I am not in the same location as my cars so I cant help. 
2004 GTP -  3.8 Blown - Only modding for MPG.
1997 GTP  - 3.8 Blown - Too many mods to list.
1996 GTP - 3.4 DOHC - Twin to my 1997.
1995 SE - soon to be a 3.8 turbo car.
1990 TSTE x 2 white cloth
1990 TSTE x 1 maroon leather
1990 TGP - 5 speed.

89BlackTGP

Quote from: GPChief on April 30, 2010, 03:30:37 PM
I have one of each, however I am not in the same location as my cars so I cant help. 
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1996 Pontiac Grand Prix SE 3100/4T60-E (Black)

1995 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP 3.4 DOHC/4T60-E (White)

1990 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix 3.1/4T60 (Black)

Jonpro03

If all else fails, Theres a jeffm on my tgp Ill be up there on wednesday

1997 Grand Prix GTP coupe topswap
1990 Turbo Grand Prix Black/Tan Interior 15.05 1/4mile

mfewtrail

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I can tell you without measuring anything that Kenny used 4'' long, 1 3/4'' diameter 304SS "Epi-Flex" braided bellows with an inner liner. I'm not sure what version of the inner liner his had, someone with his x-over could tell you that. There are braided liners and then that are "interlocking" liners.

Go to this site and hover over/click the pictures to see the difference in the types of liners I mentioned.http://www.verociousmotorsports.com/Shop-by-Category/Flex-Couplings/Vibrant-Performance-Stainless-Steel-Flexible-Coupling

Jeff M. x-overs used shorter inconel bellows that are braided on the outside and have an interlocking liner on the inside. The bellows on the Jeff M. x-over are right at 2.5'' long total length.

Here's an old picture of one of my jeff m. x-overs.
http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y33/mfewtrail/1990%20TGP/?action=view&current=IMG_3056.jpg

BTW, 89BlackTGP, check your private messages. ;)
'93 SE, '90 Black/tan TGP, & '90 Red/tan TGP

89BlackTGP

Matt..

Yes, i knew one of them guys x-overs had really short bellows.. I would love to find the shorter ones that Jeff M. used but have not found one thing on them.. They look better and your not trying to cram 4" where it does not fit well.. I NEED to find where he got his supply of bellows and we have another person on the forum making x-overs again.. :)
1996 Pontiac Grand Prix SE 3100/4T60-E (Black)

1995 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP 3.4 DOHC/4T60-E (White)

1990 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix 3.1/4T60 (Black)

mfewtrail

Some of the larger companies that make those bellows could probably do a custom job for you, but I'm sure that would be pricey with the quantities they would probably need to make to make it worth their time. I think Jeff mentioned having to buy a lot of those flexes in order to get the size/type he used. Maybe he still has some of them, but I'm not sure if anyone has been able to contact him in years. If Jim(idbeast) is still around, he might be able to get you in touch with Jeff.
'93 SE, '90 Black/tan TGP, & '90 Red/tan TGP

89BlackTGP

Sent Jim a PM. he last logged in it 2009 so i doubt he will get back anytime soon.. Im going to have to check to see if they can be custom made to order.. Ill see what needs to be done.. :icon_confused:
1996 Pontiac Grand Prix SE 3100/4T60-E (Black)

1995 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP 3.4 DOHC/4T60-E (White)

1990 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix 3.1/4T60 (Black)