Fuel injectors

Started by Mark Brownfield, October 06, 2002, 06:06:25 PM

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Mr. Mod Man

I would not experiment with any other injectors with out having a Snap- On computer hooked up to your car and being completely knowing of all variables and parameters having to do with injectors. Lbs/ hour is only one of these variables. Others to be considered are pulse width,  resistance, and spray pattern(important as hell, because fuel can wash off lubricant from moving parts).
TopGun160,x-pipe,TB coolant bypass, new stock injectors,coils,Taylor Spiro-pro 8mm,Iridium,Monster 2 gauge cable from alternator to charge post,new vacuum/boost lines
latest upgrades: ceramic brakes, Hyperground wires, Prior Reman. Powermaster III ABS
coming soon: pillar pod, alcohol injection, Blow-off valve

eclipse5302

Sure, it is important to keep an eye on the BLM/INT numbers after a swap of injectors.  You need to know whats going on...  I run Diacom+ myself.  

There definately are a lot of things to consider while picking a new injector.  But, as long as the flowrate is very close and the resistance is roughly 10-18  ohms...the injector should work fine.  At least thats been my expierence.  

But you are right, you just can't throw anything in without knowing a little about it.  All of the injectors we have been talking about should be fine for replacement in the TGP.

Jason

Chris A

Quote from: PavementPounderI would not experiment with any other injectors with out having a Snap- On computer hooked up to your car and being completely knowing of all variables and parameters having to do with injectors. Lbs/ hour is only one of these variables. Others to be considered are pulse width,  resistance, and spray pattern(important as hell, because fuel can wash off lubricant from moving parts).

Unfortunately the snap on scanner has a software glitch that doesn't report all the parameters right for the TGP chip. Diacom does report ok.

eclipse5302

I found that to be true with my Snap-ON 2500 scanner.  But my Diacom works great.

Jason

TurboGTU

Will this DIYer connector and program work with the TGP brad band and code.

http://pweb.de.uu.net/pr-meyer.h/aldl.htm

I am so tempted in making so many scan tools, W-band O2 sensors and such with my electronics skills.

Is it even better than a normal scan tool?
Has anyone tried it?

I am sure I would want to monitor what the computer is doing to those injectors and palse width--I have a osciliscope for that  :wink: .
Turbocharged 88 IMSA Beretta GTX <-dam stright.
90 ASC/McLaren Black TGP.

Powermaster slowed my progress like I was piloting the Queen Mary herself--

eclipse5302

That program looks like it will work.  But a real scan tool such as Diacom + is much nicer...but expensive.  

But, give it a try.  The parts won't cost you more than $10.

Jason

1trucavalier

My injectors are finally in.  Did not start the car yet,  it was sooooo cold when i got off work i decided to wait and now it damn snowed today GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!  I also have to take my intake manifold, front valve cover, motor mount dogbones, and motor mount plates into the shop for a pricing on chrome plating.   They are talking like $200 for the upper intake man, and front valve cover alone.
hi-flow intake, straight pipe, dsm bov, 24lb inj,  polished upper intake, turbo, and frt valve cover.

TGPilot

So has enyone come to a decisive part # for the proper pintle style fuel injector?   :drinking:

eclipse5302

I don't think so, not yet anyhow.

But take a look at the 89-90 Corvette injectors.  We already have the Corvette fuel pump, maybe we got it's injectors too...

Jason

Mr. Mod Man

Thats because the Corvette wishes it were as bad ass as it's big brother - The Grand Prix - :wink:
TopGun160,x-pipe,TB coolant bypass, new stock injectors,coils,Taylor Spiro-pro 8mm,Iridium,Monster 2 gauge cable from alternator to charge post,new vacuum/boost lines
latest upgrades: ceramic brakes, Hyperground wires, Prior Reman. Powermaster III ABS
coming soon: pillar pod, alcohol injection, Blow-off valve

john jackson

Well if idbest has the correct part number then www.gmpartsdirect.com has the injectors for $66 each. Is jeff even cheaper then that? If he is I might go with those instead of the accels.

Chris A

Remember to look at the BIG picture with GMpartsdirect. SHIPPING! I know jeff's price is at least close to that, and probably cheaper after shipping, so check with him. Personally I would get them from Jeff and only support GMpartsdirect if I absolutely had to, which I never do.

Chris

1trucavalier

gmparts got the best prices on parts but shipping is insane!  I was looking for a part that I found for $3.50 and they wanted to charge me $10.50 for shipping.   Same with the gm strut braces $7.80 w/ship  $17.50 wtf <--------
hi-flow intake, straight pipe, dsm bov, 24lb inj,  polished upper intake, turbo, and frt valve cover.

TGPilot

Plus if you go and buy the TGP GM style injectors you will be right back to the same problem in 1-1.5 years with them leaking from what I have read from others. I am going to talk to a couple of friends and see what they recommend for an upgraded injector on our cars. Seeing is how everything is hush hush on the other side of the fence... 8)

skalor

I'd really like to see how this injector thing turns out, because I think mine are leaky as well.  My car would puff some black smoke under full throttle.  It would also load up on fuel when I would launch at the track causing some hesitation.  After I get my tranny on Saturday, and I get it rebuilt.  The first thing I'm buying is injectors, and drag radials.  I'm looking for at least a 2.0 60' this summer.
'90 Lumina <-- Turbo 3.1 - SOLD :P
'89 TGP <-- getrag 284 equipped - SOLD :(
'89 Olds Cutlass Ciera International coupe