Shake at Idle.

Started by jheiv, November 19, 2003, 03:55:33 PM

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jheiv

I had this shake when I at idle and also alot when I got to a certain RPM (around 4000).  Anyway, I changed my plugs (AC Delco Rapid Fires) and wires (Borg Warner) and I still have this shake.  :evil:  Its sucks, I don't get any combustion in a cylinder and it kills my gas milage, not to mention the gas smell in my passenger compartment now.  Any ideas?  I'm pulled and reseated my wires a couple times now both on the plug and on the coils, Thats not it.  Any Ideas?
1989 Red TGP
Mods: KYB-GR2 Struts and Mounts, Prior PMIII, K&N Filter, K&N Breather, 8.5 mm Wires
Upcoming: TopGun Chip, Coils, X-Over

TGPRobNY

I would check the coils and maybe you have a crossover leak as well since it's a real common problem that often goes overlooked.

RareGMFan

I'm pretty sure you shouldn't be using the Rapid Fires, because they are all platinum now, and that's no good for the TGP motors.
1990 Pontiac Grand Prix SE McLaren Turbo (1 of 2725), 1989 Pontiac 6000 STE AWD (1 of 1376)
1990 Pontiac Grand Prix STE McLaren Turbo (1 of 1000), 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Special Edition



R Dubya

I'm running platinums in my car, it runs fine.  I know it's against advice, but from what I understood, it was only because they are a much poorer conductor of heat.  Is there any other reasons?  They don't break off do they?
Ryan Warren
'89 TGP
It doesn't run anymore.

RareGMFan

Quote from: RyanThey don't break off do they?

Actually, I think they do   :shock:
1990 Pontiac Grand Prix SE McLaren Turbo (1 of 2725), 1989 Pontiac 6000 STE AWD (1 of 1376)
1990 Pontiac Grand Prix STE McLaren Turbo (1 of 1000), 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Special Edition



R Dubya

I'm not using the rapid fires.. #8's.. but the newer version.  I'll look into that.
Ryan Warren
'89 TGP
It doesn't run anymore.

The Burning Rom

Quote from: 6000STE/AWD
Quote from: RyanThey don't break off do they?

Actually, I think they do   :shock:

They don't break off.  :roll: The platinum in them burns out much faster than it should due to the wasted spark (distributorless) system that GM uses.
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RareGMFan

Quote from: The Burning Rom
Quote from: 6000STE/AWD
Quote from: RyanThey don't break off do they?

Actually, I think they do   :shock:

They don't break off.  :roll:

Sarcasm, for crying out loud.....SARCASM!  :roll:  :P
1990 Pontiac Grand Prix SE McLaren Turbo (1 of 2725), 1989 Pontiac 6000 STE AWD (1 of 1376)
1990 Pontiac Grand Prix STE McLaren Turbo (1 of 1000), 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Special Edition



jheiv

broken pushrod causing zero compression on 5th cylinder power stroke... causing fowling of plugs and flooding. thanks.
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1989 Red TGP
Mods: KYB-GR2 Struts and Mounts, Prior PMIII, K&N Filter, K&N Breather, 8.5 mm Wires
Upcoming: TopGun Chip, Coils, X-Over

R Dubya

You're lucky you don't need anything else.. lol.  I found a broken pushrod in my 89 TGP, replaced it, still did the same things.. finally did a compression test and found that the cam lobe had worn down on the intake lifter on cylinder #5.  Now I have to do a rebuild.   :shock:
Ryan Warren
'89 TGP
It doesn't run anymore.

maximage

Could be like my old Surpa nad find a hole in the piston and a warped head..

These engines take a pretty good amount of abuse. I'm impressed so far.
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