Car won't start!

Started by jheiv, December 20, 2003, 04:25:04 PM

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god910

This may not be alot of help, but you paid way too much for that thing.  
http://www.partsamerica.com/SelectParts.asp?sourcearea=SHOP&ptset=C&parttype=194&description=Ignition+%26+Tune%2DUp&sourcepage=PartTypes&searchfor=Ignition+Module%2FControl+Unit
As far as your problem, I'm still w/ injectors as I said earlier.  I know it's not something you want to replace on a whim, but I still think it may be your problem.  I have a set of Accel 24# inj.  PM me if you are interested.
1990 Turbo Grand Prix Black Sunshine
282 5 speed, Custom Chip, 1G DSM BOV, K&N on turbo, Centerforce Clutch, Accel 8.8 Wires, no kat, straight exhaust, TB bypass (200HP), Jeff-M cro$$over ;)
Jay Warfel
Muncie, IN
2nd TGP "TestBed" 90, Black JeffM TG160 & X-over, ractive filter, 15.21 @ 90 mph
2003 Sonic Yellow Subaru Impreza WRX  Turbo XS Stage 3
Perrin GT35R, 2.5 STi Block, JDM 6 speed swap underway.
Goal: 450 AWHP, mid 11's.

idbeast

Pull and /or replace your plugs... If you had a bad DIS it would foul your plugs and do the no start thing...
Jim W     AKA  Idbeast
04 Supercharged Nissan Frontier Crew Cab 4X4 in sandstone (Light Gold)!!!
Red 89 TGP (14.95 1/4 mile) Not any more...... coming with surprises in the very near future, Black 90 TGP (14.41 1/4 mile), White 90 Turbo STE (15.06 1/4 mile), and now my 2nd White 90 Turbo STE 89 Dodge Shadow ES Turbo

Chris A

Quote from: jheivWow. What the hell.  I went out and bought a new DIS module (225 bones may i add) and took the wrench time in... Went out and found a pep boys that had a 5.5 mm ratchet for the coil packs... bolted it back on... and no go.  It sounds a hell of a lot better now, with the new DIS module and crank sensor, but it sounds like only 4 or 5 cylinders are firing, you know how it sounds when you are cranking, and its starting but not enough to self sustain?  Thats what i get.  AHHH this is driving me nuts... Its been a week an a half at my work, sitting, alone, TAUNTING ME!  Please Help

So you didn't do the cheap  and easy thing and pull the plugs and check them for gap or fouling?

Do that then get a can of carb/throttle cleaner. If after checking plugs etc it doesn't start, remove teh upper IC pipe, crack the throttle plate open a little and give about a 1 second squirt. Then have someone crank it while you give short bursts of spray to the throttle plate. If the injectors, fuel pump, etc are not working the car will start off of the throttle cleaner. If that works then you need to look at the fuel system.

Chris

jheiv

Here we go again, I go to check the plugs right pull one out... they cylinder is FILLED with fuel.  This is the same with all the cylinders.  I'm figuring the computer for some reason is making up and flooding my engine.  It was no joke, the DIS module made the car sound a hell of alot more stable, but it never took off.  So while I'm waiting for some of the remaing fuel to air out, I check the oil, get this there is fuel halfway up my oil dipstick.  Like what is that?  
First thing I thought was piston rings, but that scared me so I moved on... Anyway, I thought, now that the plugs are out, might as well check compression.  I got one cylinder with no compression.  Like maybe 5psi, but thats it.  Cranked it 5 times.
As upsetting as this may sound, and it was a very hard decision, I think I am going to make this car my project car and scrap the idea of a daily driver.  But by no means will I get rid of it.  It has just been alot of hassle dealing with it every week or so just to get it drivable again.  If anyone has any ideas about this new occurance let me know, and to everyone who as given me input-- THANK YOU, YOUR EXPERTISE IS GREATELY APPRECTIATED
1989 Red TGP
Mods: KYB-GR2 Struts and Mounts, Prior PMIII, K&N Filter, K&N Breather, 8.5 mm Wires
Upcoming: TopGun Chip, Coils, X-Over

god910

Remember that if the fuel washed the oil down, your not going to get any compression.  There has to be a seal to allow for the suction.  The rings can only do so much.  You need to get this car back to your house and check out your injectors, FPR, and computer.  Those are the only things that can cause your problem.  (Within reason)  I would yank the intake and check those injectors, they were a bad design to begin w/.  Check the FPR while your in there.  IIRC a computer is like $85 new from Adv. auto parts, so it's not that bad.  Just don't get TOO mad at the car and get rid of it.  At least you had SOME drive time before it put you through this.  I bought my car w/ 0 minutes of drive time.  But, oh man, was it worth it when I finally got it running.
1990 Turbo Grand Prix Black Sunshine
282 5 speed, Custom Chip, 1G DSM BOV, K&N on turbo, Centerforce Clutch, Accel 8.8 Wires, no kat, straight exhaust, TB bypass (200HP), Jeff-M cro$$over ;)
Jay Warfel
Muncie, IN
2nd TGP "TestBed" 90, Black JeffM TG160 & X-over, ractive filter, 15.21 @ 90 mph
2003 Sonic Yellow Subaru Impreza WRX  Turbo XS Stage 3
Perrin GT35R, 2.5 STi Block, JDM 6 speed swap underway.
Goal: 450 AWHP, mid 11's.

alaskatgp

Hey jheiv did you ever figure out the problem? Sounds like it's been a real pain. I hope you at least got it back home and somewhere warm to work on it.
'90 TGP Red/Tan
Only One in Alaska!!!

jheiv

Haha this car is giving me SO MANY problems... So I change my oil... This time going for a lighterweight oil 5W40 (I think).  Start my car, runs fine.  Drive for a little, runs fine.  Park it at my friends house for the night, go back out the next morning... Crank... Crank... Crank... Crank... Cranks Until Dead Battery.  I just repaced my DIS and Crank Sensor.  My plugs and wires are relatively new.  I read somewhere about an oil pressure switch?  Any help is appreciated... thanks
1989 Red TGP
Mods: KYB-GR2 Struts and Mounts, Prior PMIII, K&N Filter, K&N Breather, 8.5 mm Wires
Upcoming: TopGun Chip, Coils, X-Over

jheiv

broken pushrod causing zero compression on 5th cylinder power stroke... causing fowling of plugs and flooding. thanks.
--just cleaning up my posts
1989 Red TGP
Mods: KYB-GR2 Struts and Mounts, Prior PMIII, K&N Filter, K&N Breather, 8.5 mm Wires
Upcoming: TopGun Chip, Coils, X-Over