...do a 5-Speed Swap?

[TGPilot]

Ok peoples...

I have purchased (today) and will be picking up (next week) a 1989 GP SE with a 2.8 litre 5 Speed. I will be taking many photos and writting up a how to guide that I will talk to Waskie about hosting. Otherwise I will print up a How To manual that I will provide to those who need it. This will be an 1990 TGP 4T60 Automatic to 5-Speed Swap if you haven't figured that out already.

If anyone has any pointers for me before I do this swap as to what you would like to specifically see, or how you would like to see it...let me know.

Peace... 8)

[Chris A]

I have no problem giving you some space for this if waskie won't accomodate you, but I'm sure he will.
Chris

[TGPilot]

Good deal. Thanks Chris. I should have everything together by the 28th of July if all goes as planned. I can't wait. The auto tranny in it now can't handle the 8-9 lbs of boost I am putting to it now...slips and shutters bad in first until it locks into 2nd. Bye Bye automatic...hello bend axles :roll:

[waskie]

You can have all the space you need.

[JTOWNPATGP]

Hey, I was reading about the 5-speed swap and had a question.  I was under the impression that a 5-speed would not work well with our cars ( I believe someone asked that question on the old board).  Will a 5-speed work, and which one would work?  Thanx..cuz I have been considering this for a while.

[TGPilot]

JTown...

What wouldn't work? The only thing that may be a problem is what the ECU senses and I need to verify with JeffM. It sould be just fine and work like any other Auto to Manual swap I have ever done with cars in the past. I will let you know how mine turns out... 8)

[Chris A]

I'm not sure how much help Jeff will be able to warrant. He has recieved this request before, but has not had much time to look into what is different. To work properly, you may need to ground an orange wire into the P/N switch, which tells the ecm the car is in gear. Otherwise it won' t do over 3k rpm. Other than that, the transmission tells the ECM which gear its in, and when it changes, and the Torque conveter lockup. As far as error codes for not having a trans? I don't think there are any.

Chris

[Jeorge]

P/N switch, which tells the ecm the car is in gear. Otherwise it won' t do over 3k rpm. Other than that, the transmission tells the ECM which gear its in, and when it changes, and the Torque conveter lockup. As far as error codes for not having a trans? I don't think there are any.

Chris

talk to Eclipse... He did a swap into his cutlass

go to my site and click on the link http://www.geocites.com/ste_turbo

[crazychuck29]

ohh my freakin goodness jeorge that avater is sooooooooo ferakin funny where did you find that....rofl......

[TGPilot]

Will do...thanks guys.

8)

[corvette]

When you do the swap, why not rewire the P/N safety switch to a clutch switch, so it prevents engagement of the starter unless the clutch is depressed.

[Chris A]

When you do the swap, why not rewire the P/N safety switch to a clutch switch, so it prevents engagement of the starter unless the clutch is depressed.

You can rewire the starter solenoid part of the Neut Saftey switch(NSS) to do so. But, the NSS has several functions and one of them is to tell the ECM by grounding the orange wire that its in gear. It also connects the backup lights and allows the trunk release to work.

Chris

[TGPilot]

Hey Chris...

I will be looking real hard at the wiring diagrams for both cars to see what will be compatible. Thanks much for the info... 8)

[GPChief]

TGPilot,

If you really want to impress me....get the "up shift" light on the dash to work.  It is in the Tach circle under the top portion of the tach.  I had one on a Fiero GT, the darn thing seemed to stay on most of the time :mrgreen:

Send me your address (e-mail), may stop by later this week.  Father is in town, will be leaving for Ohio Sat.

Thomas

Also let me know If I should make a call to someone in Denver......

[TGPilot]

I would love to see pictures of a complete 5 speed swap into a 1989 or 1990 TGP just so I know. For all of those guys on the other board who said this shit was easy...PISS OFF!!!! I will finish this friggin' swap...but it isn't FUCKIN' EASY!!!!  :crazyeyes:   Now that I am done venting...let me go get some band-aids for my busted knuckles!  A little :drinking: will do the trick too!